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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    I think this poll should end tonight with another one starting tonight or tomorrow

    Duran is the clear winner of this one

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    The next poll will be open tomorrow evening.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    I voted for Dorn this round by the way. I like him quite a bit. As Doug said, he'll get 400+ plate appearances against right-handers even as a platoon guy and he mashes them. I just think most people will overlook any player who's "projected" to be a platoon guy when it comes to prospect lists.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    I voted for Dorn this round by the way. I like him quite a bit. As Doug said, he'll get 400+ plate appearances against right-handers even as a platoon guy and he mashes them. I just think most people will overlook any player who's "projected" to be a platoon guy when it comes to prospect lists.
    Can Dorn hit .280, with 25 homers and 75-80 RBIs as a National League outfielder playing against righty pitching (which means most of the time)?

    If so, then I agree he should be listed around tenth on the list.

    If not, then he really is a fourth outfielder, not a 400 AB platoon guy.

    Teams need major offensive production from left field, not just "passable" offense.

    I don't know the answer but this seems like the relevant question to me.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Can Dorn hit .280, with 25 homers and 75-80 RBIs as a National League outfielder playing against righty pitching (which means most of the time)?

    If so, then I agree he should be listed around tenth on the list.

    If not, then he really is a fourth outfielder, not a 400 AB platoon guy.

    Teams need major offensive production from left field, not just "passable" offense.

    I don't know the answer but this seems like the relevant question to me.
    I fully feel Dorn could hit 25-30 HR in a full major league season as soon as 2010 while showing a good ability to get on base as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    I voted for Dorn this round by the way. I like him quite a bit. As Doug said, he'll get 400+ plate appearances against right-handers even as a platoon guy and he mashes them. I just think most people will overlook any player who's "projected" to be a platoon guy when it comes to prospect lists.
    Now hold on if Dorn gets on base just as much against left hander as he does right hander or close to it why should he NOT be an everyday player? We all know he crushes right hand pitching so why should he be 1/2 of a platoon?

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lockdwn11 View Post
    Now hold on if Dorn gets on base just as much against left hander as he does right hander or close to it why should he NOT be an everyday player? We all know he crushes right hand pitching so why should he be 1/2 of a platoon?
    Well, so far he hasn't shown the ability to get on base "just as much against left handers". For his minor league career, he has an OBP of .332 against LHP and .403 against RHP.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lockdwn11 View Post
    Now hold on if Dorn gets on base just as much against left hander as he does right hander or close to it why should he NOT be an everyday player? We all know he crushes right hand pitching so why should he be 1/2 of a platoon?
    Thats not accurate thats why.

    Dorn's career splits

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    Split	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	W	IW	HP	K	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	BABIP	   	GB%	LD%	FB%	
    vs. LH	215	48	10	0	6	26	0	11	54	.223	.332	.353	.685	.271	 	42.4%	15.8%	41.2%
    vs. RH	776	246	57	6	44	100	5	15	166	.317	.403	.576	.979	.357		34.7%	19.8%	45.3%

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    Fair enough but this is only 215 AB so there is still a chance he could improve on those numbers and he wouldn't have to improve much to be an everyday player.
    Last edited by Lockdwn11; 11-03-2008 at 05:00 PM.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    Duran is ahead in the popular vote but how is the electoral math playing out?

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    I think Sam LeCure should be added to the next poll.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    Dorn-- 915 minor league OPS
    Likely position: LF

    Frazier-- 884 minor league OPS
    Likely position: LF

    Just sayin'.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Dorn-- 915 minor league OPS
    Likely position: LF

    Frazier-- 884 minor league OPS
    Likely position: LF

    Just sayin'.
    It's a fair comparison, though I still have hope for Frazier sticking at 3B. Just goes to show how much draft position and hype matter on these lists. For example, if you switch the draft positions of Dorn and Stubbs, there is no way anybody puts Stubbs ahead of Dorn.

    For the record, I still love Todd Frazier, and I've got him ahead of Dorn on my list. But I definitely have Dorn ranked higher than the Redszone aggregate will place him.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Dorn-- 915 minor league OPS
    Likely position: LF

    Frazier-- 884 minor league OPS
    Likely position: LF

    Just sayin'.
    Todd Frazier - 22 years old
    Danny Dorn - 24 years old

    Thats a fairly significant difference in the prospect world, especially when you want to compare stats.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #9 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Todd Frazier - 22 years old
    Danny Dorn - 24 years old

    Thats a fairly significant difference in the prospect world, especially when you want to compare stats.
    Plus, Frazier hasn't gotten out of the two pitching leagues, yet: the MWL and the FSL. Dorn's numbers really jumped when he went from Sarasota to Chattanooga.


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