Zach Cozart
Chris Dickerson
Danny Dorn
Juan Duran
Carlos Fisher
Chris Heisey
Jeremy Horst
Matt Maloney
Devin Mesoraco
Ramon Ramirez
Yorman Rodriguez
Josh Roenicke
Zach Stewart
Justin Turner
Pedro Viola
Frazier, age 21, Billings: .319/.409/.513 - .922 OPS
Dorn, age 21/22, Billings: .354/.457/.573 - 1.030 OPS
No comparison in Dayton since Dorn skipped that level.
Frazier, age 22, Sarasota: .281/.357/.451 - .808 OPS
Dorn, age 22/23, Sarasota: .281/.359/.456 - .815 OPS
If you want to dock Dorn because he was six months older than Frazier was when they went through the same levels, that's up to you.
Of course, you can just compare them at the same age
You can see that neither was as advanced as Votto was. It's interesting to see how the FSL kills your numbers. What's even more interesting is that Jay Bruce blasted a .965 there and he was only 20.Code:Frazier - Ages 21-22 RK .409|.513|.922 A .397|.619|1.016 A+ .357|.451|.808 Dorn - Ages 21-22 RK .457|.573|1.030 A+ .355|.458|.813 Votto - Ages 21-22 A+ .330|.425|.755 AA .408|.547|.955
I agree. I will add that I see all 3 as safe bets to be in the majors in 2009 for Roenicke and Fisher, and 2010 for Stewart. And they should be higher than Dickerson and Dorn because those guys are safe bets as projected as OF reserves, not regulars. Dickerson does not have the bat to stick in the lineup and Dorn is very weak vrs. lefties and is a defensive liability in LF.
I disagree, but I still like those guys. I'm beginning to feel like some of the guys are going to be undervalued by their prospect ranking because of the strength of the system. Does any one else feel this way? I see about 15 guys who would be top 10 prospects and than a few more who could get consideration in a lot of systems. Am I giving the the farm too much credit?
I'm quite surprised by the lack of voting for Devin Mesoraco. He was ranked #10 on RZ last year, and he didn't do anything in 2008 to hurt his stock IMO...
Is a change from 10 to 13/14 really a significant drop? It would seem that there has been other guys who have progressed faster, been added to the system, etc that have nudged him down. He is in a stage where the new prospect smell has rubbed off a bit so he lacks the buzz of Yonder Yorman and Duran but hasn't shown himself at the higher levels like Thompson, Dickerson and Ramirez. There are a lot of talented guys in the 5 to 15 range and I have no idea really where to put them other than by gut and gut is sometimes swayed by excitement rather than head.
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