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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    I joined the premium board over at True Blue Kentucky...

    let me just type, I have an ENTIRELY new perspective on the Liggins situation. He is not starting for a very good reason.
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    Alex Legion-itis?
    Well, his mom isn't involved.

    What's the saying about the most difficult horses to break end up being your most valued steeds? Something along those lines.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Re: Merged: UK Basketball

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    I joined the premium board over at True Blue Kentucky...

    let me just type, I have an ENTIRELY new perspective on the Liggins situation. He is not starting for a very good reason.
    Want to share that with us?


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    TS: Check your PMs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Thanks. I agree. He needs to grow up.

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    Inside The Hall interviewed John Clay of the Lexington Herald Leader for their preview of the upcoming IU/UK game. I thought the Cats fans here might find it interesting.

    John Clay is a columnist for the Lexington Herald Leader and is the author of Sidelines. He covered Kentucky football for 13 seasons before being promoted to columnist in 2000. We recently caught up with him for a Kentucky edition of Know Thy Opponent.

    Inside the Hall: Itís year two of the Billy Gillispie era in Lexington. What has Gillispie done well since arriving at UK and what can he improve upon moving forward?

    John Clay: Since arriving here, Gillispie has given the impression that heís going for it. Heís not holding back. Heís recruiting eighth graders. Heís hiring assistants (Tracy Webster) who will bring him recruits (Darius Miller). Heís taking advantage of an NCAA loophole to move Midnight Madness to a week before official practice begins. Heís paying Daniel Ortonís father, within the rules, in hopes of getting that recruit (he did). The one thing that has undercut the confidence fans have in him is the unexpected losses Ė to Gardner-Webb last year, to VMI this year. Kentucky is not supposed to lose to those teams.

    ITH: One of the problems so far for Kentucky this season seems to be an inability to get the ball inside to Patrick Patterson. Is this problem a result of teams focusing on stopping Patterson or Kentuckyís lack of leadership in the backcourt?

    JC: Iíd say more lack of leadership, and ball-handling skills, more than anything else. This team has a definite point guard problem. Starter Michael Porter canít avoid turning the ball over. Asking him to run the offense is a stretch of his skills. DeAndre Liggins, while hardly smooth, has played better, but with his trademark stubbornness, Gillispie has yet to put the freshman in the starting lineup. Even beyond point guard, this is not a team of handlers. The smalls turn it over. The bigs turn it over.

    ITH: Another big storyline early in the season is the DeAndre Liggins saga out in Las Vegas. Was this an isolated incident or do questions still linger about the relationship between the freshman guard and Gillispie?

    JC: So far, anyway, Gillispie seems to be one of those Iím-going-to-do-it-my-way coaches. When Liggins refused to enter the second half of the Kansas State game in Vegas, most felt the freshman would (a) leave, (b) be booted from the team, or (c) be glued to the bench. Instead, he played 27 minutes the next night against West Virginia. Liggins has played well enough since then to deserve a promotion to the starting lineup, but that hasnít come. Perhaps itís a punishment for the Las Vegas incident. I donít think thereís any real friction between Liggins and Gillispie. I donít expect him to leave.

    ITH: Besides Patterson or Jodie Meeks, who is the player most important to the success of UK and why?

    JC: Thatís a tough one. Obviously, the point guard role needs to be resolved and the turnover problem fixed. But freshman Darius Miller needs to step up and provide a third scoring option behind Meeks and Patterson. Miller has excellent ability. Heís shown poise, is a good passer, and can take the ball to the basket. But heís been way too timid for Gillispieís taste thus far. In the last game, against Mississippi Valley, Gillispie called for Miller to go into the game, but when the freshman passed the head coach on his way to the scorerís table, Billy G. called him back and sent him to the end of the bench. Itís a Billy G. trick from last year. If the player doesnít show the proper enthusiasm for going in the game, he doesnít go in the game.

    ITH: With both programs being somewhat down recently, has the UK-IU rivalry lost any of its luster? Or is it still a game that the fans in Lexington circle on their calender each year?

    JC: I donít think the fans circle it like they once did. It would help if both program were at a high level at the same time. That hasnít been the case in recent years. Plus, when UK dominated the SEC, games against Louisville and Indiana gained importance. But with Florida winning titles, and Tennessee on the rise, the Cats have their hands full inside the league.

    ITH: Finish this sentence: By seasonís end, Kentucky will be a team thatÖ

    JC: . . . plays hard, plays good defense, and plays just well enough to lose to the better teams on its schedule.

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    Re: Merged: UK Basketball

    At least they didn't interview that tool Tipton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Re: Merged: UK Basketball

    Clay was pretty accurate in his assessment. They have a lot flaws that probably can't be fixed short of another good recruiting class or two. The IU rivalry,IMO,lost a lot of luster when The General left. It was always a lot more fun beating him. FWIW,Knight had a losing record against UK,14-17.
    If UK doesn't take IU seriously and they turn the ball over a lot they will have a tough time winning. IU plays extremely hard for Crean and that makes up a lot for being under talented and sized.
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    Tomorrow's game has the potential to be a pretty sloppy one. Both teams are turnover prone.

    Like most games the Hoosiers will play this year, I just hope they can keep it close.

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    Darius Miller played himself a hell of a first half.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    I am amazed at how much trouble this team has throwing a inside pass to PP.
    Then when Harrellson comes in they suddenly get the ball inside.
    Oh wait...then I realize it is PP who throws the pass then. In other words he seems to be the best passer to the low post we have which doesnt help him very much.
    Hopefully they will continue to improve because their lack of a 40 minute game is concerning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocko View Post
    I am amazed at how much trouble this team has throwing a inside pass to PP.
    Then when Harrellson comes in they suddenly get the ball inside.
    Oh wait...then I realize it is PP who throws the pass then. In other words he seems to be the best passer to the low post we have which doesnt help him very much.
    Hopefully they will continue to improve because their lack of a 40 minute game is concerning.
    It should tell something that Patterson is second on the team in assists right now.

    Tonights game though was the opposite of what has happened all season. Kentucky actually got off to a hot start and then cooled off. Problem is, Indiana didn't have the firepower to actually get back into the game.

    I feel for Tom Crean. I've always liked him as a person, similar to Tubby Smith. Hopefully once he gets his players in Bloomington, Indiana can get back on track.

    One of the announcers on CBS made the comment that once Liggins entered the game, that was when Kentucky started to regress offensively. Did anybody else notice that?
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    I thought it was a 23 point lead that led to UK's "lack of energy."

    How'd you like to be a gambler on that game, UK has a 23 point lead at half and you only end up pushing on the 18 point spread.
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    Re: Merged: UK Basketball

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    One of the announcers on CBS made the comment that once Liggins entered the game, that was when Kentucky started to regress offensively. Did anybody else notice that?
    Yeah, it was Greg Anthony who acquitted himself well. Hopefully we will get to see some more of him.

    BTW Cats fans, how sweet was it to see Tennessee lose to Temple? I love to see them lose and throw down their headbands in disgust. I really, really, really, really dislike UT.
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    Liggins has got to start pulling in the same direction as the rest of the team. He's the main one holding this team back right now from accomplishing what Coach Gillispie wants.

    His effort at times yesterday was pathetic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"



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