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    YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread where everybody can put their prospect lists for future reference. This way, we can compare how we saw prospects from one year to another when we do our community vote:

    BaseClogger's 2009 Top 40
    1. Yonder Alonso
    2. Kyle Lotzkar
    3. Neftali Soto
    4. Todd Frazier
    5. Devin Mesoraco
    6. Juan Duran
    7. Daryl Thompson
    8. Danny Dorn
    9. Juan Francisco
    10. Chris Valaika
    11. Ramon Ramirez
    12. Chris Dickerson
    13. Zach Stewart
    14. Yorman Rodriguez
    15. Josh Roenicke
    16. Drew Stubbs
    17. Ryan Hanigan
    18. Matt Maloney
    19. Zach Cozart
    20. Travis Wood
    21. Jeremy Horst
    22. Carlos Fisher
    23. Adam Rosales
    24. Pedro Viola
    25. Robert Manuel
    26. Dallas Buck
    27. Justin Turner
    28. Jordan Smith
    29. Sam Lecure
    30. Evan Hildenbrandt
    31. Juan Carlos Sulbaran
    32. Shaun Cumberland
    33. Brandon Waring
    34. Danny Herrera
    35. Sean Henry
    36. Chris Heisey
    37. Sean Watson
    38. Scott Carrol
    39. Tonys Gutierrez
    40. Alex Buchholz
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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    My Top 40 Prospects

    1.Yonder Alonso
    2.Neftali Soto
    3.Drew Stubbs
    4.Todd Frazier
    5.Chris Valaika
    6.Devin Mesoraco
    7.Kyle Lotzkar
    8.Zach Stewart
    9.Danny Dorn
    10.Juan Francisco
    11.Juan Duran
    12.Daryl Thompson
    13.Carlos Fisher
    14.Josh Roenicke
    15.Zach Cozart
    16.Yorman Rodriguez
    17.Ramon Ramirez
    18.Chris Dickerson
    19.Adam Rosales
    20.Ryan Hanigan
    21.Pedro Viola
    22.Justin Turner
    23.Chris Heisey
    24.Jeremy Horst
    25.Alex Buchholz
    26.Robert Manuel
    27.Evan Hildenbrandt
    28.Travis Wood
    29.Matt Maloney
    30.Scott Carroll
    31.Philippe Valiquette
    32.Sam Lecure
    33.Dallas Buck
    34.Jordan Smith
    35.Shaun Cumberland
    36.Juan Carlos Sulbaran
    37.Sean Watson
    38.Sean Henry
    39.Brandon Waring
    40.Ramon Geronimo

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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    I'll say this before I put my top 40, I may tweak it up until they begin play. Probably not so much the top 10-15 but I found last year that I learned a few things about some of the later guys last season while we were doing these rankings that vaulted guys a few spots or dropped them a few.

    But I'm sure every one of us tweak it here and there. I would put Homer at 4 assuming he was R.O.Y eligible. But since I know not many will include him I'll just address this here and not on the list. I also added a few more just for fun.

    1 - Soto
    2 - Frazier
    3 - Alonso
    4 - Lotzkar
    5 - Valaika
    6 - Stubbs
    7 - Mesoraco
    8 - Dickerson
    9 - Dorn
    10 - Thompson
    11 - Stewart
    12 - Ramirez
    13 - Fisher
    14 - Roenicke
    15 - Rosales
    16 - Henry
    17 - Maloney
    18 - Cozart
    19 - Bucholz
    20 - Francisco
    21 - Wood
    22 - Duran
    23 - Rodriguez
    24 - Hanigan
    25 - Viola
    26 - Horst
    27 - Heisey
    28 - Watson
    29 - Castillo
    30 - Turner
    31 - Manuel
    32 - Cumberland
    33 - Buck
    34 - Hildenbrandt
    35 - Sulbaran
    36 - Parker
    37 - Geronimo
    38 - Wiley
    39 - A. Smit
    40 - J. Smith

    41 - Sappelt
    42 - Thurman
    43 - Brown
    44 - Puckett
    45 - Tatum
    46 - Shunick
    47 - A. Gonzalez
    48 - Castro
    49 - Waring
    50 - LeCure
    51 - Lutz (Pitcher)
    52 - Richar
    53 - Widemann
    54 - Familia
    55 - Cline
    56 - Jukich
    57 - Herrera
    58 - Reed
    59 - Guillon
    60 - Arias/Morrison
    Last edited by Mario-Rijo; 11-05-2008 at 03:24 AM.
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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    I'll say this before I put my top 40, I may tweak it up until they begin play. Probably not so much the top 10-15 but I found last year that I learned a few things about some of the later guys last season while we were doing these rankings that vaulted guys a few spots or dropped them a few.

    But I'm sure every one of us tweak it here and there. I would put Homer at 4 assuming he was R.O.Y eligible. But since I know not many will include him I'll just address this here and not on the list. I also added a few more just for fun.

    1 - Soto
    2 - Frazier
    3 - Alonso
    4 - Lotzkar
    5 - Valaika
    6 - Stubbs
    7 - Mesoraco
    8 - Dickerson
    9 - Dorn
    10 - Thompson
    11 - Stewart
    12 - Ramirez
    13 - Fisher
    14 - Roenicke
    15 - Rosales
    16 - Henry
    17 - Maloney
    18 - Cozart
    19 - Bucholz
    20 - Francisco
    21 - Wood
    22 - Duran
    23 - Rodriguez
    24 - Hanigan
    25 - Viola
    26 - Horst
    27 - Heisey
    28 - Watson
    29 - Castillo
    30 - Turner
    31 - Manuel
    32 - Cumberland
    33 - Buck
    34 - Hildenbrandt
    35 - Sulbaran
    36 - Parker
    37 - Geronimo
    38 - Wiley
    39 - A. Smit
    40 - J. Smith

    41 - Sappelt
    42 - Thurman
    43 - Brown
    44 - Puckett
    45 - Tatum
    46 - Shunick
    47 - A. Gonzalez
    48 - Castro
    49 - Waring
    50 - LeCure
    51 - Lutz (Pitcher)
    52 - Richar
    53 - Widemann
    54 - Reed- Familia is a D-Backs prospect from the Reds/Dbax DSL
    55 - Cline
    56 - Jukich
    57 - Herrera
    58 - Morrison
    59 - Guillon
    60 - Arias
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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    You lost me with that last post. What's the deal with Familia beside Justin Reed's name?
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    You lost me with that last post. What's the deal with Familia beside Justin Reed's name?
    I had Silio Familia as a prospect of ours in my initial post, but he is just on the Reds/DBacks DSL. And he is a DBacks prospect. It was late....
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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    I'll go with 30 -- Didn't include Dickerson or Hanigan since I expect that their prospect days are over. Didn't include Bailey. On my list, and some others, once you get past the top 15 or twenty, the Reds' depth is in pitching, which is good.

    1. Alonso -- OBP, power, and average
    2. Frazier -- Maybe a shade below Alonso, but close from right side
    3. Stubbs -- Defense makes up for bat questions
    4. Soto -- Overhyped but potentially a high average hitter
    5. Francisco -- Underhyped, huge production, needs to walk more
    6. Lotzkar -- Raw, maybe injured, but best starter package in org
    7. Duran -- Just based on scouting
    8. Roenicke -- Could be the next Dibble.
    9. Valaika -- Can hit, unsure if MLB starter, defense unclear
    10.Thompson -- Just based on that Yankee performance
    11. Stewart -- Moving fast as reliever, seems to have great stuff
    12. Dorn -- Platoon left fielder, very consistent minor league hitter
    13. Cozart -- Hidden gem, org's true shortstop, will he hit?
    14. Mesoraco -- Needs time to develop, first round talent
    15. Lecure -- For awhile was super in AA last year, until injury
    16. Fisher -- With ground ball stuff, good fit as reliever
    17. Rodriguez -- Like Duran, based on scouting
    18. Ramirez -- Has held up well in upper levels
    19. Watson -- Performance must improve, apparently dynamite stuff
    20. Turner -- May lack some projection, great make up, performs
    21. J. Smith -- Did great at High A, ground balls, low WHIP, solid
    22. Henry -- Looks like a solid fourth outfielder
    23. Viola -- Inconsistent but can be effective from pen or starting
    24. Hildenbrandt -- Needs to develop but seems to be class of GCL crop
    25. Rosales -- See him as reserve, but gets bat on ball, versatile
    26. Wood -- Smaller frame, needs to show has more than changeup
    27. Buck -- Deserves mention due to pre-injury status
    28. Tatum -- Didn't hit last year, still projects as defensive catcher
    29. Manuel -- Not hyped for his projection, but good numbers
    30. Waring -- More hype in '07, not giving up on him

    Notably missing -- Maloney. Would love to see him succeed as lefty starter, didn't happen in 2008.

    Honorable mention -- Bucholtz. Another good season and he rockets up the list.
    Last edited by Kc61; 11-05-2008 at 04:32 PM.

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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    Good thread idea. I'll get mine on here when I get a full list done, I've only thought about the first 15 or so.

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    My Top 40 Prospects

    1. Yonder Alonso
    2. Neftali Soto
    3. Todd Frazier
    4. Juan Francisco
    5. Drew Stubbs
    6. Juan Duran
    7. Chris Valaika
    8. Zach Stewart
    9. Josh Roenicke
    10. Yorman Rodriguez
    11. Devin Mesoraco
    12. Kyle Lotzkar
    13. Danny Dorn
    14. Carlos Fisher
    15. Matt Maloney
    16. Justin Turner
    17. Sean Watson
    18. Ismael Guillon
    19. Chris Dickerson
    20. Zach Cozart
    21. Evan Hildenbrandt
    22. Dallas Buck
    23. Blaine Howell
    24. Junior Arias
    25. Sam Lecure
    26. Terrell Young
    27. Philippe Valiquette
    28. Juan Carlos Sulbaran
    29. Jordan Smith
    30. Travis Wood
    31. Daryl Thompson
    32. Ramon Ramirez
    33. Pedro Viola
    34. Sean Henry
    35. Shaun Cumberland
    36. Jeremy Horst
    37. Tyler Cline
    38. Tyler Pelland
    39. Daniel Morrison
    40. Alex Buchholz

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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Notably missing -- Maloney. Would love to see him succeed as lefty starter, didn't happen in 2008.
    Shooter's gonna love that...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    1. Yonder Alonso- liked the pick
    2. Todd Frazier- provides much needed right handed bat
    3. Neftali Soto- This is not hype its production and at a very young age, he will have to work on his plate discipline at some point….won’t he?
    4. Danny Dorn- Im going to treat anyone who could hit 25 hr’s in the majors as a regular rather than a platoon.
    5. Chris Valaika- The reds seem to be content to leave him at ss for now
    6. Daryl Thompson- needs to stay healthy
    7. Kyle Lotzkar- ditto
    8. Carlos Fisher- like the groundball tendencies
    9. Devin Mesoraco- I’d keep him in Dayton for at least half the season
    10. Juan Fransisco- Too much power to ignore,
    11. Chris Dickerson- Only player on this list to OBP over .400 in MLB
    12. Josh Roenicke- can’t live off a fastball alone,
    13. Ramon Ramirez
    14. Drew Stubbs- Serious doubts about him, I’d trade him while his value is high. At least his production has remained consistent. Brian Anderson proved lack of offense is not tolerated.
    15. Zach Stewart-
    16. Zach Cozart- Didn’t like this pick but he had a good year in Dayton, if he has a solid year next year he’ll jump into my top 10
    17. Chris Heisey- I was a Denorfia fan as well
    18. Juan Duran- too much money to ignore
    19. Yorman Rodriguez- ditto
    20. Adam Rosales- Rough slump to start the season before getting hot. He had 70 XBH the previous season.

    21. Ryan Hanigan
    22. Matt Maloney-
    23. Justin Turner
    24. Pedro Viola
    25. Sam Lecure
    26. Travis Wood
    27. Jeremy Horst
    28. Sean Watson
    29. Evan Hildenbrandt
    30. Sean Henry
    31. Robert Manuel
    32. Shaun Cumberland
    33. Jordan Smith
    34. Alex Buchholz
    35. Alexander Smit
    36. Byron Wiley
    37. Ramon Geronimo
    38. Juan Carlos Sulbaran
    39. Ramon Geronimo
    40. Miseal Dejesus
    41. Danny Ray Herrera

    Players who I'll be interested to see how they perform, in no relevant order

    1. Juan Aquino
    2. Justin Reed
    3. Shea Snowden
    4. David Sappelt
    5. Logan Parker
    6. Jeff Jeffords
    7. Scott Carroll
    8. Cody Puckett
    9. Andrew Means
    10. Brandon Waring

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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Shooter's gonna love that...


    These rankings are opinion, and everyone's entitled to their opinion. I'll only speak up if something is presented as a fact when it can be proven untrue.

    Also, I am glad everyone has figured out the origin of my username. I always wondered if people got that or not.

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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    Quote Originally Posted by SMcGavin View Post


    These rankings are opinion, and everyone's entitled to their opinion. I'll only speak up if something is presented as a fact when it can be proven untrue.

    Also, I am glad everyone has figured out the origin of my username. I always wondered if people got that or not.
    WMR had it figured out when you were up for vote...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    1. Soto
    2. Alonso
    3. Francisco
    4. Y. Rodriguez
    5. Lotzkar
    6. Dickerson
    7. Stewart
    8. Thompson
    9. Hanigan
    10. Frazier
    11. Valaika
    12. Duran
    13. Stubbs
    14. Mesoraco
    15. Heisey
    16. Horst
    17. Buchholz
    18. Hildenbrandt
    19. Cozart
    20. Fisher
    21. Waring
    22. Dorn
    23. Sulbaran
    24. Turner
    25. Roenicke
    26. R. Ramirez
    27. I. Guillon
    28. Viola
    29. Herrera
    30. Buck
    31. Manuel
    32. M. Thurman
    33. Maloney
    34. S. Snowden
    35. J. Arias
    36. D. Sappelt
    37. Rosales
    38. Tatum
    39. R. Geronimo
    40. Parker

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    Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

    1. Yonder Alonso - polished approach, .300/.400/.550 caliber hitter
    2. Neftali Soto - potential 30 homer, .900+ OPS hitter, few more walks would be nice
    3. Todd Frazier - good combo of power/OBP, Youkilis-lite?
    4. Drew Stubbs - gold glove caliber CFer, good OBP skills
    5. Kyle Lotzkar - very young, electric stuff, potential ace
    6. Daryl Thompson - potential solid big league starter, Arroyo with better velocity?
    7. Chris Valaika - solid bat, potential .800 OPS hitter?
    8. Juan Francisco - 35 to 40 homer power, improved plate discipline is key
    9. Juan Duran - incredible talent, one of best hitting prospects to come out of Dominican Republic
    10. Chris Dickerson - plus defender in CF with skills to be above average hitter
    11. Danny Dorn - potential 30 homer guy, good OBP skills, needs to improve vs lefties
    12. Zach Stewart - dominant stuff, potential shutdown reliever
    13. Josh Roenicke - great fastball, needs to refine breaking ball, potential dominant relief arm
    14. Yorman Rodriguez - incredible athlete, draws comparisons to Eric Davis and Cesar Cedeno
    15. Carlos Fisher - great stuff with groundball tendencies, good major league reliever
    16. Ramon Ramirez - plus changeup, solid fastball, chance to be solid big league starter or reliever
    17. Matt Maloney - average fastball with quality curveball and changeup. Potential innings eating #4 starter
    18. Dallas Buck - strong groundball tendencies, velocity will be key
    19. Devin Mesoraco - still has some work to do, but still a good prospect
    20. Zach Cozart - plus defender at shortstop, solid power, needs to work on plate discipline
    21. Adam Rosales - big league utility player with solid power
    22. Chris Heisey - good defender in CF with good OBP skills
    23. Pedro Viola - good stuff, has a chance to be a quality lefty out of the pen
    24. Jeremy Horst - good command of average stuff, potential back-end starter or lefty reliever
    25. Alex Buchholz - big time bat, decent defender at second base
    26. Evan Hildenbrandt - already has two above average pitches in fastball and curve
    27. Justin Turner - utility type guy, Reds fans will love his all-out style of play
    28. Sean Henry - solid player in mold of a Reed Johnson type
    29. Juan Carlos Sulbaran - low 90's fastball with plus movement, quality curve and changeup. Could take a huge leap on this list next year
    30. Travis Wood - plus changeup, command needs some work
    31. Robert Manuel - average to slightly above average fastball with movement, good changeup and great command
    32. Mace Thurman - potential steal in late rounds of 2008 draft, potential to be a good lefty out of pen
    33. Junior Arias - only 16, slick fielding shortstop with good potential in bat
    34. Sam Lecure - average stuff, maybe big league 5th starter/swing man
    35. Jordan Smith - power arm with groundball tendencies
    36. Ismael Guillon - 16 year old lefty, 88-92 mph heater with advanced changeup for his age
    37. Philippe Valiquette - quality stuff, command is key
    38. Carter Morrison - toolsy outfielder from Canada, big potential, possible steal
    39. Ryan Hanigan - Already 28 years old, not much power, good OBP skills, solid defender, age is reason I dropped him so low... I do like him, he's a good story
    40. Brandon Waring - solid defender with big power, needs to cut down on strikeouts

    *This could be subject to change. I sort of just threw this list together tonight.
    Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 11-06-2008 at 01:37 AM.
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