He should be in the top 11, in my opinion. He showed he was ready to hit the ground running.Someone (can't remember who) on BP really likes Ramirez but I'm not sure how Goldstein feels about him. I doubt if he cracks the top 11 since he just turned 26.
Up until this year, I wasn't that high on Ramirez and I didn't think the Reds were very high on him. It looked as if they had given up on him as a starter and I had always heard that he was lacked projection.
But he certainly has held up well in the upper levels. Just shows you that sometimes a prospect needs some time to mature. In Ramirez' case, the Reds deserve credit for sticking with him and giving him a major league shot at age 26.
I certainly would rather have Ramirez on the Reds next year, in some role, as compared to Fogg, Belisle, Majewski, and perhaps other pitchers the Reds had this year.
I think I would take 200 IP of 4.00 ERA over 60 IP of 2.50 ERA. It's really a toss up for me between Ramirez and Roenicke. I chose Roenicke ahead of RR in my top 40 prospect list, but I may re-think that.
200 IP of 4.0 ERA makes him a #3 though. That definitely changes the comparison because I've always been told his ceiling is a 4/5.
I like that Ramirez has the versatility to become a 4th/5th starter, and if that doesn't work out, there is still a good chance he could be a more effective reliever than Roenicke...
Yep. I wasn't really talking specifically about Ramirez and Roenicke. I'm just saying I would rather have a solid starter (200 IP at 4.00 ERA) over a great reliever (60 IP, 2.50 ERA) most of the time. As for Ramirez's ceiling, right now I think he could be a solid starter (170 IP at 4.40 to 4.50 ERA) but that could change if he improves his slider.
Seemed like more than that
He was there a lot during BP though
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