Hoosier Hoops

[SunDeck]

What I really like about college basketball is that you can see teams progress up the rankings, then back down again if other teams figure out what their weaknesses are. Right now, IU is responding to the game plans of other teams; when they try to shut them down in the paint, they are able to shoot their way past them.
However, I doubt it will last because opposing teams are going to figure out ways to defend them, to lock out the big men, defend the three, exploit weaknesses, make IU come up with new ways to win. That's the nature of it and whether IU can sustain their success and respond to the changes other teams will throw at them remains to be seen.
From a fan perspective, I'm tickled to see them doing so well. I would have never thought they'd be this far, so fast. If they falter, it won't surprise me, but so far all the surprises have been fun to watch.

[Hoosier Red]

I would love to see IU put in Kentucky's bracket. They would just love the Chum Center with 19k UK fans.

I somehow doubt they'd only let Kentucky fans in In fact, I'm thinking it would look like the previous versions of the IU-UK games in Louisville or Indy with half the seats in red and half the seats in blue.

[WMR]

I somehow doubt they'd only let Kentucky fans in In fact, I'm thinking it would look like the previous versions of the IU-UK games in Louisville or Indy with half the seats in red and half the seats in blue.

The seats for that game have already been pretty much sold.

[traderumor]

Not really. I've said that I don't expect them to finish in the top 10 when it's all said and done. I simply resent the idea that IU hasn't proven anything this season and the correlating implication that other squads have.

If IU's wins over UK and tOSU are no big deal because they came at home, what do we make of Ohio State? The only top 25 win they currently possess is over Duke @home. They've gone on the road 3 times and are 1-2.

If IU goes to Columbus and pulls an upset, then it's a big deal obviously. If they go to Columbus and lose, whether by 1, 5 or 50, it really doesn't matter.

yea, pretty much. Notice I never said Ohio State has proven anything either....well except that 30 point win at Iowa was a good sign. And other than the IU game, which I believe was a good gut check game for them where failure helped them grow, they've just been pounding people.

They still need more consistent perimeter play from guards, like Buford and Sibert, or they'll be sweet 16 and done again. They start getting some consistent outside shooting, its Katie bar the door.

[TeamSelig]

I am in IU fan land where I'm from.... you can definitely tell IU has a competitive team this year. So many fans trash talking again, just like the good ole days. Personally, I prefer IU to be terrible, but it is good for some trash talking.

[Razor Shines]

yea, pretty much. Notice I never said Ohio State has proven anything either....well except that 30 point win at Iowa was a good sign. And other than the IU game, which I believe was a good gut check game for them where failure helped them grow, they've just been pounding people.

They still need more consistent perimeter play from guards, like Buford and Sibert, or they'll be sweet 16 and done again. They start getting some consistent outside shooting, its Katie bar the door.

So are you talking about the sugar crash in the OSU thread? Cause over there they're talking about a NC. Over here we're saying we didn't expect this much so soon....possibly getting a 3 or 4 seed and maybe winning a couple games in the tourney. Does that really seem ridiculous to you?


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[rdiersin]

I am in IU fan land where I'm from.... you can definitely tell IU has a competitive team this year. So many fans trash talking again, just like the good ole days. Personally, I prefer IU to be terrible, but it is good for some trash talking.

As a Purdue fan and living in the IU part of the state, I understand what you mean, but as far as this thread is going, the IU fans seem to be pretty spot on and not trashing talking (outside of the annoying A &T references). IU is ranked 8 on kenpom and have a good adjusted offense and adjusted defense. It will be interesting to see how the season plays out. IU has played well and I don't get this talk that it isn't sustainable. They are where the polls and the computers say they should be. There isn't anything huge that jumps out to say they are gong to crash. They have a good mix of youth and upperclassmen. Sure they may go through some tough stretches but so do all teams. I feel dirty now.

[Hoosier Red]

Sorry rdiersin, I kid because I love

[rdiersin]

Sorry rdiersin, I kid because I love

No worries there. It just is a pet peeve of mine, like when UK fans call U of L little brother, even though I'm not even a U of L fan. I know its just a joke, but it just seems a bit arrogant.

It will be interesting to see what happens with IU in the coming years. Having IU/Purdue games that are actually relevant will be fun. Outside of the year Eric Gordon was at IU, it hasn't happened in a long time, first with Purdue being down at the end of Gene's time and then of course with IU's difficulties the past several years. Hopefully more of the in-state talent will stay in-state (and hopefully more will come to Purdue) and both programs can stay toward the top of the Big 10.

[fearofpopvol1]

yea, pretty much. Notice I never said Ohio State has proven anything either....well except that 30 point win at Iowa was a good sign. And other than the IU game, which I believe was a good gut check game for them where failure helped them grow, they've just been pounding people.

They still need more consistent perimeter play from guards, like Buford and Sibert, or they'll be sweet 16 and done again. They start getting some consistent outside shooting, its Katie bar the door.

Ohio State lost to Illinois tonight. It was a road game, but that's nothing to be proud about.

Michigan State looks like the Big 10 team to beat. 95-61 against Iowa. I know Iowa isn't great, but that's a crazy win.

[fearofpopvol1]

Not really. I've said that I don't expect them to finish in the top 10 when it's all said and done. I simply resent the idea that IU hasn't proven anything this season and the correlating implication that other squads have.

If IU's wins over UK and tOSU are no big deal because they came at home, what do we make of Ohio State? The only top 25 win they currently possess is over Duke @home. They've gone on the road 3 times and are 1-2.

If IU goes to Columbus and pulls an upset, then it's a big deal obviously. If they go to Columbus and lose, whether by 1, 5 or 50, it really doesn't matter.

Don't forget Michigan too. That is absolutely a quality win, even if it's at home.

[Hoosier Red]

No worries there. It just is a pet peeve of mine, like when UK fans call U of L little brother, even though I'm not even a U of L fan. I know its just a joke, but it just seems a bit arrogant.

It will be interesting to see what happens with IU in the coming years. Having IU/Purdue games that are actually relevant will be fun. Outside of the year Eric Gordon was at IU, it hasn't happened in a long time, first with Purdue being down at the end of Gene's time and then of course with IU's difficulties the past several years. Hopefully more of the in-state talent will stay in-state (and hopefully more will come to Purdue) and both programs can stay toward the top of the Big 10.

That's true. It's really mind blowing how much talent is going through the state right now. If Hanner Perea were eligible for Mr. Basketball, IU recruits would be a near lock to have 4 players on the Indiana-Kentucky all star squad including two or three guys competing for Mr. Basketball, and yet having said that, in any other year Purdue would be celebrating how loaded its class was.

[Hoosier Red]

I've been slacking from my Pre-Game Meal duties, but here's my post for the Minnesota game. http://www.crimsoncast.com/?p=3233

[thatcoolguy_22]

I can't tell if Traderumor really believes what he is saying or is just trolling. Anyone?

if anyone reads the crimsonquarry you have already seen this article but

http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2012/1/...he-whole-story

the teaser...

Much has been made about the schedule so far. A large contingency of critics who are still uncertain about Indiana basketball point to the schedule for a crutch. They will tell you Indiana hasn’t played anyone outside of Bloomington or their cupcake schedule is providing all of those wins. This however is merely a meme and not the true case. Indiana has played an above average difficulty of schedule and many just don’t see it or want to admit it. Currently according to Pomeroy, IU has played the 68th toughest schedule in the nation. That is good enough for fifth in the conference, behind only Michigan State, Michigan, Northwestern and Nebraska.

Quality Wins
1) Syracuse: Florida(home), Marquette(home), and thats it
2) Kentucky: UNC(home), KU(nuetral), and LOU(home)
3) UNC: Mich ST(nuetral), Wisc (home) and thats it
4) Baylor: KSU(road), West Virginia? (home) and thats it

7)Indiana: UK (home), OSU(home), and Michigan (home)


Take away the preseason hype and IU would be number 2 or 3 in the polls. Far and away the best collection of wins by any team in the nation. People can say they don't believe or they are over-rated, but those people usually are Buckeye or Wildcat fans.

[traderumor]

I can't tell if Traderumor really believes what he is saying or is just trolling. Anyone?

if anyone reads the crimsonquarry you have already seen this article but

http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2012/1/...he-whole-story

the teaser...





Quality Wins
1) Syracuse: Florida(home), Marquette(home), and thats it
2) Kentucky: UNC(home), KU(nuetral), and LOU(home)
3) UNC: Mich ST(nuetral), Wisc (home) and thats it
4) Baylor: KSU(road), West Virginia? (home) and thats it

7)Indiana: UK (home), OSU(home), and Michigan (home)


Take away the preseason hype and IU would be number 2 or 3 in the polls. Far and away the best collection of wins by any team in the nation. People can say they don't believe or they are over-rated, but those people usually are Buckeye or Wildcat fans.

40 years of watching the game, seen dozens of December/January flashes come and go. I don't troll. What do I have on this board, over 15,000 posts? The Hoosiers will suddenly lose 2 or 3 in a row, lose to teams they should not in the latter part of the season, and make an early exit from the tourney. That's my prediction. You can revisit it later.

BTW, I guess IU has been off the radar for so long, I am shocked to learn how much the fans like to repeat "have I told you how great we are?" Sort of like Kramer's annoying girlfriend, Toby: "great, really, really great!!!"