Turn Off Ads?
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 61

Thread: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Making sense of it all Matt700wlw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    26,537

    Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Being a younger member on this board...this makes me feel a bit old...er..

    http://www.mtv.com/photos/?fid=1598984&view=thumb

  2. #2
    Member Highlifeman21's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Bristol, just around the corner from ESPN
    Posts
    8,694

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    That baby album cover is still disturbing, IMO

  3. #3
    he/him *BaseClogger*'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    7,795

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    The most important rock album of the last 25 years? I think so...

  4. #4
    Member redsfanmia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    4,126

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    The most important rock album of the last 25 years? I think so...
    Hands down
    When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.

  5. #5
    breath westofyou's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    PDX
    Posts
    57,005

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    The most important rock album of the last 25 years? I think so...
    Blew might be better though.

  6. #6
    he/him *BaseClogger*'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    7,795

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Blew might be better though.
    Are you talking about Bleach? I like that album a lot, but it's not Nevermind...
    Last edited by *BaseClogger*; 11-13-2008 at 07:23 PM.

  7. #7
    breath westofyou's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    PDX
    Posts
    57,005

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Are you talking about Bleach? I like that album a lot, but it's not Nevermind...
    Yes, duh.. Bleach. $600 of fuzz, not as produced as nevermind, not as popular, but while Nevermind introduced Nirvana to the world Bleach pushed Sub Pop over the top and that was a good thing.

  8. #8
    he/him *BaseClogger*'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    7,795

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Yes, duh.. Bleach. $600 of fuzz, not as produced as nevermind, not as popular, but while Nevermind introduced Nirvana to the world Bleach pushed Sub Pop over the top and that was a good thing.
    Then why didn't you just call it by its name?

    I agree Bleach has a better sound, and it' less forced "grunge" which I like, but the iconic singles on Nevermind make it better IMHO...
    Last edited by *BaseClogger*; 11-13-2008 at 07:53 PM.

  9. #9
    Just The Big Picture macro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    The Bluegrass State
    Posts
    6,150

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    The most important rock album of the last 25 years? I think so...
    As much as I disliked Nirvana and the whole Seattle thing, I can't argue.

    My dislike was because I was a child of 70s and 80s rock, and the new sound was a shock to my system. For the first time in my life, at age 25, I felt outdated and uncool. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" just sounded like a bunch of jumbled noise to me.

    I now appreciate the band and the album and it's place in music history, but it doesn't bring back great memories.

  10. #10
    Redsmetz redsmetz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Winton Place
    Posts
    12,908

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by macro View Post
    As much as I disliked Nirvana and the whole Seattle thing, I can't argue.

    My dislike was because I was a child of 70s and 80s rock, and the new sound was a shock to my system. For the first time in my life, at age 25, I felt outdated and uncool. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" just sounded like a bunch of jumbled noise to me.

    I now appreciate the band and the album and it's place in music history, but it doesn't bring back great memories.
    Try this version on for size - I heard about Anka's album on NPR (maybe Fresh Air) and it was intriguing to hear a big band take on the song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM_xvTaYavw
    “In the same way that a baseball season never really begins, it never really ends either.” - Lonnie Wheeler, "Bleachers, A Summer in Wrigley Field"

    The Baseball Emporium - Books & Things.

    The Baseball Bookstore

    http://tsc-sales.com/
    http://tscsales.blogspot.com/
    http://silverscreenbooks.com/

  11. #11
    Moderator The Operator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Del Davis Tree Farm
    Posts
    8,475

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Another thing that made Nevermind as great as it was, is the fact that they added Dave Grohl as their drummer shortly before going to Sound City to record it.

    If you're very into Nirvana, you know that Chad Channing (and The Melvins' Dale Crover for 3 songs) was the drummer on Bleach, and while decent, Chad definitely was not at the same level as a Dave Grohl.

    I honestly can't picture the songs on Nevermind sounding as good if they had Chad Channing drumming on them. If any of you have ever heard Nirvana's "Smart Demos", you'll probably agree. These were the original Nevermind sessions, before they canned Chad in favor of Dave. Songs like "In Bloom" and "Lithium" just were not the same without Dave's firepower.

    Oh, and I also think In Utero is an incredibly underrated album, in addition to Bleach. But following up Nevermind was of course a tough task.

  12. #12
    Just The Big Picture macro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    The Bluegrass State
    Posts
    6,150

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    Try this version on for size - I heard about Anka's album on NPR (maybe Fresh Air) and it was intriguing to hear a big band take on the song:
    Well, now, that was different. I had never listened to Anka or any big band for that matter, but it was really interesting to hear that song (and some others at youtube) that he had redone. I ended up going over there and listening to a couple more. I've always believed that a great song is a great song, regardless of the genre, and this is evidence IMO.

    One great musical masterpiece was the title track from from Metallica's And Justice For All CD. I always wanted to hear a huge orchestra perform that song.
    Last edited by macro; 11-14-2008 at 09:27 AM.

  13. #13
    Posting in Dynarama M2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2000
    Location
    Boston
    Posts
    45,746

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by macro View Post
    As much as I disliked Nirvana and the whole Seattle thing, I can't argue.

    My dislike was because I was a child of 70s and 80s rock, and the new sound was a shock to my system. For the first time in my life, at age 25, I felt outdated and uncool. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" just sounded like a bunch of jumbled noise to me.

    I now appreciate the band and the album and it's place in music history, but it doesn't bring back great memories.
    I'm the same age, but I had the opposite reaction. I was beyond tired of Boomer rock and I was aching for our generation to bust out with something different.
    I'm not a system player. I am a system.

  14. #14
    Member kpresidente's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    4,093

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by macro View Post
    As much as I disliked Nirvana and the whole Seattle thing, I can't argue.

    My dislike was because I was a child of 70s and 80s rock, and the new sound was a shock to my system. For the first time in my life, at age 25, I felt outdated and uncool. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" just sounded like a bunch of jumbled noise to me.

    I now appreciate the band and the album and it's place in music history, but it doesn't bring back great memories.
    Me too and I was a teenager at the time. My favorite albums as a teen were Live's Throwing Copper, Tool's Undertow and STP's Purple. I like a little melody in my music and a little meaning in my lyrics.

    Of course, that was then. When I go back now and listen, I think I like Nirvana better (hard to tell, though, since I've heard every song a million times at this point). Odd how that works.
    Last edited by kpresidente; 11-14-2008 at 04:27 PM.

  15. #15
    Posting in Dynarama M2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2000
    Location
    Boston
    Posts
    45,746

    Re: Well, whatever, "Nevermind..."

    Quote Originally Posted by kpresidente View Post
    Me too and I was a teenager at the time. My favorite albums as a teen were Live's Throwing Copper, Tool's Undertow and STP's Purple. I like a little melody in my music and a little meaning in my lyrics.

    Of course, that was then. When I go back now and listen, I think I like Nirvana better (hard to tell, though, since I've heard every song a million times at this point). Odd how that works.
    One of the common knocks on Nevermind is that it's melody-heavy. That's where the Cheap Trick comparison comes in.
    I'm not a system player. I am a system.


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | Gallen5862 | Plus Plus | Powel Crosley | RedlegJake | The Operator