Ramon Ramirez. I think he will be our #5 starter next year, and a good one. He was the only #5 we had last year who performed well at that role.
Alex Buchholz
Dallas Buck
Zach Cozart
Carlos Fisher
Ryan Hanigan
Chris Heisey
Sean Henry
Evan Hildenbrandt
Jeremy Horst
Ben Jukich
Sam Lecure
Matt Maloney
Ramon Ramirez
Adam Rosales
Juan Carlos Sulbaran
Justin Turner
Pedro Viola
Brandon Waring
Travis Wood
Ramon Ramirez. I think he will be our #5 starter next year, and a good one. He was the only #5 we had last year who performed well at that role.
Shunick, age 21, Rookie ball: 9.0 K/9, 1.6 BB/9
Fisher, age 22, Rookie ball: 7.5 K/9, 3.1 BB/9
Herrera's inability to pitch in the majors didn't seem to bother him while he was sitting down the heart of the World Champs' order.
Why can't Fisher be dominant in the bigs? I don't know, why wasn't he dominant as a 25 year old in AA?
Doug, answer me this. Between Ramirez and Fisher:
Who has a higher ceiling?
Who has a higher floor?
Last edited by *BaseClogger*; 11-18-2008 at 12:47 AM.
Cozart.
Guys who can actually stick at SS in the big leagues defensively and haven't completely eliminated themselves from ever making it with the stick don't grow on trees. Prefer those to middle relievers, interchangeable back-end guys or tweeners who may show a little more with the bat but can't find a suitable position. Cozart should be in the top 10.
As for the pitcher debate, I have Ramirez at 13, Fisher at 14 and Maloney at 15. I agree with Doug though, that Fisher is likely to have the longest career in his role. Ramirez nips him by a hair based on having a successful cup of coffee in the major leagues and the possibility that he could be a desirable piece in a deal for some team looking for young starter candidates.
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Hildenbrandt. I like Fisher and Ramirez, though I suspect Ramirez's niche will also ultimately be the pen. For that reason I like Fisher a little better; I also find the argument for Turner pretty strong, though I suspect Buchholz has a chance to be better in the long run. But starting pitching is more important than any other single commodity: thus Hildenbrandt, even though he's not that far along.
Maloney.
Dubito Ergo Cogito Ergo Sum.
still voting Heisey
Looking like a runaway for Ramirez so far.
So, is this cricket? I still like Hanigan here, but since he has no shot at this point I voted Cozart. (No objections to Ramirez, however.)
The point has been well-made, concerning Cozart, that he is one of the few guys in the organization with the skills to handle a key defensive position at the major-league level and still swing a decent bat. Well, that applies to Hanigan right now.
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