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    So ... another lil bit of a big game today ...

    This could very well be the game that determines UC's prospects of reaching the NCAA tourney. With a UC win, it's going to be impossible to keep them out if they can then follow that up with taking out South Florida and Seton Hall. If UC can't pull through today, then they'll have some work to do in the Big East tourney.

    I'm wary of today's game since it's in the Carrier Dome, but if UC can hit some shots and crash the boards effectively, then they'll give themselves a nice chance to pull out a win. Mike Williams being out is certainly going to hurt though.
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    I'm a Xavier fan but I'm pulling for the Cats. Despite all of the bickering between the two factions, this city will be at its basketball best when we have two elite programs. The Crosstown Shootout will be great if the only thing to lose is personal pride rather than national reputation!

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    Good ol' stinkfest....the bubble may have burst.

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    NIT here we come. This isn't necessarily a bad thing though. We played a meaningful game in March. We've showed significant improvement all three years that Cronin has been here, and we've had a pretty successful season with a team made up of freshman and sophomores, along with one junior and one senior.

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    Well, if they can manage to beat USF and Seton Hall next week they will go into the Big East Tournament at 20-11. If they don't get that first round bye they will play Depaul in round 1 and that would put them at 21-11, if they can win a game vs a decent team in round 2, they might be able to sneak in the NCAA's. But if not, the NIT is not horrible, maybe they make a run and gain some great experience. 20 wins would be a heck of an acomplishment in my opinion.

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    And I was just thinking, UC vs Kentucky in the NIT would be fun. The NIT should have an excellent field this year with possibly UC, UK if they stumble in Gainesville and fail to have a deep SEC tourney run, Michigan, Georgetown, possibly Notre Dame, Baylor, Va Tech or Maryland. Obviously I will be dissapointed in not making the NCAA's, but there would be some intriguing matchups in the NIT if UC could advance a couple rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearcatShane View Post
    And I was just thinking, UC vs Kentucky in the NIT would be fun. The NIT should have an excellent field this year with possibly UC, UK if they stumble in Gainesville and fail to have a deep SEC tourney run, Michigan, Georgetown, possibly Notre Dame, Baylor, Va Tech or Maryland. Obviously I will be dissapointed in not making the NCAA's, but there would be some intriguing matchups in the NIT if UC could advance a couple rounds.
    The NCAA is so deep in UK's pockets, there is no way UK is out of the tourney, barring the worst collapse ever.

    To keep with the theme of the thread, UC is winning at halfting against USF. I hate our offense against the zone. We really look clueless. Our best offense comes when we are quick passing, but we have a couple bad passers in the lineup.
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    I've been a pretty big Mick Cronin supporter, but this is the type of the game where I have to put most of the blame on his shoulders.

    When your team offense consists of passing the ball around the three point line until someone decides to throw up one of 31 three point attempts, you're not going to win many games. To me, that's on Cronin. This team just looked totally unprepared tonight and flat out didn't deserve to win. If there was an offensive gameplan, I didn't see it.

    They flat out don't deserve the NCAA tournament, and now they're not going to get in unless they win the Big East tourney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792
    They flat out don't deserve the NCAA tournament, and now they're not going to get in unless they win the Big East tourney.
    I couldn't agree with you more - with so much to play for, that was a very embarrassing loss (as was Syracuse, too).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    I've been a pretty big Mick Cronin supporter, but this is the type of the game where I have to put most of the blame on his shoulders.

    When your team offense consists of passing the ball around the three point line until someone decides to throw up one of 31 three point attempts, you're not going to win many games. To me, that's on Cronin. This team just looked totally unprepared tonight and flat out didn't deserve to win. If there was an offensive gameplan, I didn't see it.

    They flat out don't deserve the NCAA tournament, and now they're not going to get in unless they win the Big East tourney.
    You basically summed up my feelings, as well. Cronin seemed to have no plan going into the game. I liked that toward the end they decided to pass it in to Gates a few times. There were no cuts, no screens off the ball, nothing. It was really a depressing game to watch. Maybe next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    I've been a pretty big Mick Cronin supporter, but this is the type of the game where I have to put most of the blame on his shoulders.

    When your team offense consists of passing the ball around the three point line until someone decides to throw up one of 31 three point attempts, you're not going to win many games. To me, that's on Cronin. This team just looked totally unprepared tonight and flat out didn't deserve to win. If there was an offensive gameplan, I didn't see it.

    They flat out don't deserve the NCAA tournament, and now they're not going to get in unless they win the Big East tourney.
    I put the loss squarly on the shoulders of Cronin. For the first 8 minutes of the second half UC sat in a zone and allowed South Florida to shot over it. It was a huge mistake and they took a 4-6 point working margine and turned it into a 2-4 point deficite.

    I know it was a tough stretch for the UC team but Cronin's job is supposed to get his team up. He didn't use his bench or starters correct. He failed his team for that game. Unfortunatly he will probably kick the team out of the locker room but he needs to be kicked out of his office for a few games.

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    So much for bouncing back and keeping their faint hopes at a bid in the dance alive....barring an absolute, improbable run in the Big East tournament, it's NIT time.....

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    Another game with the disappearing act of Deonta Vaughn. Nearly every big game where the team needs him step up, he vanishes into thin air. The team has no real leadership on the floor, which is why they go brain dead out there for long periods of time.

    Hopefully Cash Wright can correct that next season, if not, then I have serious reservations about the future of this program.
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    I don't even know why I'm posting in this board--I was just curious. That said, Bobby Huggins is one of the three or four best coaches in America. If there was any justice, and had not home called him back, he'd still be at UC and in the tournament every year. He came to WVU with a team that can be best described as a junkball team. They had success, but not in the conference. They couldn't rebound and they couldn't play defense. That great man who works with fakes and mirrors, John Beilein, recruited shooters with the philosophy that if you shoot enough 3-pointers you win. It failed him and will time and time again. Huggs came in and took these players and made them into a basketball team. Few individuals could do that.

    Yes, he is flawed and yes, he is bland, but the "celebration" afftected him and the team. The talented youngsters failed him, but will not in the future. UC's future is bright, but do not discount the the brilliance of my friend, Huggs. He took a team who shouldn't have won 15 games to the Sweet 16 last year and will be a good seen in the tournament this year with a lesser team.

    I wish UC well and wish UC fans the best.
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