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    This team has a chance to be very good. Stephenson is a freshman and should continue to improve. Cashmere Wright is basically a freshman coming off a year-long layoff and should improve. Gates is only a sophomore. And in early December the 'Cats get Ibrahima Thomas on to the court. What happened to Sean Kilpatrick? Is he hurt? Is he redshirting?

    I think both Wright and Stephenson will probably do more penetrating as the season progresses. I am encouraged so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life View Post
    Lopsided foul calling in this one. A lot of no calls on Gonzaga, and lots of ticky tack calls on UC. Gonzaga had 23 free throw attempts, only 11 for UC. I think everyone in the gym was rooting for Gonzaga, feels like UC might have gotten homered a little bit on the foul situation.

    The last play of regulation, Gates was fouled, Stevie Wonder could have seen that one. Bilas said it as well on TV, blatent foul. But no call........not a suprise in this game.
    I would agree with just about everything here. Gates should have been on the line with two free throw attempts to win the game in regulation. There is not much question about that. Of course the Bearcats only hit 2 of 7 Fts in the overtime period. They hit their freebies and they more than likely are hoisting that championship trophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life View Post
    Lopsided foul calling in this one. A lot of no calls on Gonzaga, and lots of ticky tack calls on UC. Gonzaga had 23 free throw attempts, only 11 for UC. I think everyone in the gym was rooting for Gonzaga, feels like UC might have gotten homered a little bit on the foul situation.

    The last play of regulation, Gates was fouled, Stevie Wonder could have seen that one. Bilas said it as well on TV, blatent foul. But no call........not a suprise in this game.
    It was lopsided, but that's partially Cincinnati's fault.

    The Bearcats attempted 31 3-pointers. Gonzaga shot 15 3-pointers. When you shoot more than twice as much as your opponent from outside, there is a pretty good chance you will get whistled for several more fouls (unless you're Duke).

    Quite honestly, I thought the lob to Gates was a good no-call. The defender got ball before he hit his arm. Generally, when two players are going up in the air like that, officials will not call that a foul if you get the ball before you make contact. It certainly would not have been egregious if it were called, but I actually thought it was better left as is.
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    Gates probably should have been at the line but maybe the refs just thought that Stevenson was shooting a 3. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    It was lopsided, but that's partially Cincinnati's fault.

    The Bearcats attempted 31 3-pointers. Gonzaga shot 15 3-pointers. When you shoot more than twice as much as your opponent from outside, there is a pretty good chance you will get whistled for several more fouls (unless you're Duke).

    Quite honestly, I thought the lob to Gates was a good no-call. The defender got ball before he hit his arm. Generally, when two players are going up in the air like that, officials will not call that a foul if you get the ball before you make contact. It certainly would not have been egregious if it were called, but I actually thought it was better left as is.
    I have to disagree on the no call, if it was body contact that is one thing, but he slapped his arm making it impossible for him to make the shot. UC got called for a lot of reach in fouls that seemed to not be called on Gonzaga.

    Even though the fouls seemed to be lopsided, UC should have won that game. When they switched to a zone defense, they lost thier edge. They must have gotten fatigued, but it was a great showing for them over the last 3 days and it makes me excited for this year.
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    It seemed to be a pretty clear foul to me. And Jay Bilas agreed. Not that he is omniscient or anything. But since he was sitting courtside and has seen a basketball game or two, I have to believe he knows of what he speaks. It is immaterial now. Still, all things considered, an excellent showing from Mick's ballers out in Maui.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    It seemed to be a pretty clear foul to me. And Jay Bilas agreed. Not that he is omniscient or anything. But since he was sitting courtside and has seen a basketball game or two, I have to believe he knows of what he speaks. It is immaterial now. Still, all things considered, an excellent showing from Mick's ballers out in Maui.
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    It's bummer that the Cats lost, but I think this team can be good. They finally have some depth, and talented depth.

    With 2 wins over top 25 teams this week, despite the loss, I hope they're ranked next week.

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    Yancy Gates reminds me of Danny Fortson a little.

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    I think playing 3 games in 3 days caught up to the Bearcats. Great defensive intensity the first half, but they wore down in the second half and were running on fumes in OT.

    I think UC fans have a lot to look forward to. A young team, so they'll have some bumps and bobbles, but a promising looking season. They really do have to stop jacking up so many 3 pointers though. Them not working the ball inside was the biggest reason for the FT discrepancy.

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    After having a day or so and a good meal to take it all in, I am really excited to see how UC does in the BE. The Maui Invitational was quite a test for them and tells a lot about the team. Its a big grind to play 3 games in 3 days where the time zone issue is even larger. UC plays a nasty style of defense that just grinds you down. They are lacking on the offensive end at times, but I have confidence in Mick to straighten that out over time. They have the offensive talent for sure. They seem to be able to play the physical style that is necessary for success in the BE and have the depth also. Very good showing for the Bearcats even with the loss to the Zags.

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    Well they made the top 25

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIDP View Post
    Well they made the top 25
    Maybe a little premature but well deserved none the less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Quite honestly, I thought the lob to Gates was a good no-call. The defender got ball before he hit his arm. Generally, when two players are going up in the air like that, officials will not call that a foul if you get the ball before you make contact. It certainly would not have been egregious if it were called, but I actually thought it was better left as is.

    I don't know what he touched first but the ball wasn't knocked loose until Gates' arm got hacked. If you allow hacks like that just because there's a few secs left then throw out the rule book at the end of regulation. UC made a great play to get Gates the ball and then they were denied the chance to capitalize because of this no call.

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    UC currently in a 72-38 nail biter with 9:35 to go in the game against Texas Southern.
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