Turn Off Ads?
Page 2 of 10 FirstFirst 123456 ... LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 140

Thread: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

  1. #16
    Member Sea Ray's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Posts
    15,534

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Tennessee wants to cut all ties with the Fulmer era from what I have read.
    Also Cutcliffe took his name out of the running. I don't think he wants to replace his buddy

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #17
    Porkchop Sandwiches DoogMinAmo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Homebase, Ohio
    Posts
    2,540

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I think Kelly would be a bad fit at a big program. He is the perfect type of coach for an up and coming school where scheme and style can bridge the talent gap. At UT he would be at the center of a huge fan base. Every move would be watched and dissected. At UC if he were to step out on the streets how many fans would notice him?
    Kelly wants notoriety, but he certainly has it here in Cincinnati. But you are quite correct, he has a lot more leeway here than he would have in Knoxville.
    "I'm a Cucumber, I'm a cucumber. I'm a cucumber, I'm a cucumber. I'm a cucumber, I'm a cucumber. Please don't send me to the pickle farm, bum." - Brak

    Record In Games Attended, 2007: 2-1 (1-0 GAB, 1-1 Jake)

  4. #18
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Fairfield
    Posts
    1,397

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    I dont think he we will go i think he enjoys it here. Likes being able to be a main reason a team is becoming better and gaining popularity. And UC is doing everything possible they can to help him stay here doing exactlly what he wants i doubt a school such as the Vols will let him have as much control as he dose here in cincinnati. A bad game here and there here has people saying we will get them next week. Bad game here and there at vols is also a whole different story. I have followed UC basketball and Football most of my life yes im only 18 but I think Mick Cronin and Brian Kelly are doing wonders for there respective sports.
    <a href=http://www.signaturebar.com/><img src=http://www.signaturebar.com/uploads/images/51550.gif border=0></a>

  5. #19
    Rally Onion! Chip R's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    34,336

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by DoogMinAmo View Post
    Kelly wants notoriety, but he certainly has it here in Cincinnati. But you are quite correct, he has a lot more leeway here than he would have in Knoxville.

    Of course he's always going to play 3rd or 4th fiddle here to the Reds, Bengals and college basketball.
    The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-...24872650873160

  6. #20
    Playoffs Cyclone792's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    6,267

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Of course he's always going to play 3rd or 4th fiddle here to the Reds, Bengals and college basketball.
    More often than not he will, but I don't think he'll have to worry as much about them. Cincinnati fans are notorious for riding on whatever bandwagon is the biggest and most convenient. If UC football is consistently winning, the bandwagon will drive strong into Nippert each weekend. Then again, Cincinnati fans are also completely delusional by continuing to support a professional football franchise that ought to be contracted.

    I'm just hoping for two things primarily, 1) that the alums come back and create a new foundation in support of the program, and 2) the current student base helps out with that foundation.
    Barry Larkin - HOF, 2012

    Put an end to the Lost Decade.

  7. #21
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Fairfield
    Posts
    1,397

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    More often than not he will, but I don't think he'll have to worry as much about them. Cincinnati fans are notorious for riding on whatever bandwagon is the biggest and most convenient. If UC football is consistently winning, the bandwagon will drive strong into Nippert each weekend. Then again, Cincinnati fans are also completely delusional by continuing to support a professional football franchise that ought to be contracted.

    I'm just hoping for two things primarily, 1) that the alums come back and create a new foundation in support of the program, and 2) the current student base helps out with that foundation.
    Amen to that heres to reviving UC Sports
    <a href=http://www.signaturebar.com/><img src=http://www.signaturebar.com/uploads/images/51550.gif border=0></a>

  8. #22
    C-A-T-S CATS! CATS! CATS! WVRed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Almost Heaven
    Posts
    8,445

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by NatiRedGals View Post
    i doubt a school such as the Vols will let him have as much control as he dose here in cincinnati. A bad game here and there here has people saying we will get them next week. Bad game here and there at vols is also a whole different story.
    One thing to keep in mind regarding Tennessee is that Fulmer has been there for 16 years. Johnny Majors, who was the head coach before Fulmer, was there for 15. Tennessee is pretty generous when it comes to giving coaches leeway.

    That being said, I don't think Kelly is going to be the homerun hire compared to Michigan last year with Rodriguez. I don't really know who would qualify though.
    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    I've read books about sparkling vampires who walk around in the daylight that were written better than a John Fay article.

  9. #23
    Rally Onion! Chip R's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    34,336

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    More often than not he will, but I don't think he'll have to worry as much about them. Cincinnati fans are notorious for riding on whatever bandwagon is the biggest and most convenient. If UC football is consistently winning, the bandwagon will drive strong into Nippert each weekend. Then again, Cincinnati fans are also completely delusional by continuing to support a professional football franchise that ought to be contracted.

    I'm just hoping for two things primarily, 1) that the alums come back and create a new foundation in support of the program, and 2) the current student base helps out with that foundation.

    It's not just about attendance though. As Doog said, it's about notoriety. If he wants that, he would get that in Knoxville where it's all about UT football for better or for worse. No matter how well the basketball programs do there UT football is always going to be top dog. It's about playing on ESPN Saturday afternoons and evenings rather than during the week on ESPNU. It's about opening up the morning paper and having the headline on the front page extolling your latest victory or loss. It's about having the phone lines on the local talk shows jammed with people wanting to talk about the game rather than having the hosts begging people to call and talk about it because everybody wants to talk about why the Bengals lost again. It's about being in a football conference rather than a basketball conference. If he wants that, he should go to UT if they offer him the job. If he's hypersensitive and doesn't want the criticism that goes along with a job like that, he should stay here.

    Personally, I think he'll stay. He's only been here a few years and it'll look bad if he job hops. If he's good enough and he wants to move up to the next level, another job will open up for him just as good if not better than the UT job. The Bama job should open up in a couple of years.
    The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-...24872650873160

  10. #24
    I hate the Cubs LoganBuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    6,111

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    I said it before, buy season tickets. Give them as gifts for Christmas. If you want him to stay, UC needs the cash.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

  11. #25
    Be the ball Roy Tucker's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Mason, OH
    Posts
    11,991

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    As a tangental Brian Kelly comment, that was a heckuva ballgame last night between Kelly's old Central Michigan Univ. and Ball State. Ball State won 31-24 in a real see-saw affair.

    One of the best football games I've seen this season.

    Pay attention to the open sky

  12. #26
    The Boss dougdirt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    34,874

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    As a tangental Brian Kelly comment, that was a heckuva ballgame last night between Kelly's old Central Michigan Univ. and Ball State. Ball State won 31-24 in a real see-saw affair.

    One of the best football games I've seen this season.
    It was pretty good. Not the best I have seen this year, but its gotta be in the top 10.

  13. #27
    Waitin til next year bucksfan2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    10,108

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    It's not just about attendance though. As Doog said, it's about notoriety. If he wants that, he would get that in Knoxville where it's all about UT football for better or for worse. No matter how well the basketball programs do there UT football is always going to be top dog. It's about playing on ESPN Saturday afternoons and evenings rather than during the week on ESPNU. It's about opening up the morning paper and having the headline on the front page extolling your latest victory or loss. It's about having the phone lines on the local talk shows jammed with people wanting to talk about the game rather than having the hosts begging people to call and talk about it because everybody wants to talk about why the Bengals lost again. It's about being in a football conference rather than a basketball conference. If he wants that, he should go to UT if they offer him the job. If he's hypersensitive and doesn't want the criticism that goes along with a job like that, he should stay here.

    Personally, I think he'll stay. He's only been here a few years and it'll look bad if he job hops. If he's good enough and he wants to move up to the next level, another job will open up for him just as good if not better than the UT job. The Bama job should open up in a couple of years.
    Another plus with the UT job is that Javy and all his women attend the games.

    Chip this is something I will never understand with college football coaches. Kelly has a job with a BCS team that has an easier route to a BCS Bowl or BCS Championship game. He is well compensated as coach of UC but obviously not as much as he would be as coach of UT. He also is in a low stress situation. While UC football is starting to garner water cooler talk in Cincinnati, it still has a long way to go. Remember his decision to take the safety against WVU instead of punting the ball? That was big for maybe a day in Cincy, down in Knoxville that would be talked about non stop for weeks.

    IMO Kelly has a pretty good gig at UC. It isn't the mecca of college football but it also isn't Siberia. He is getting the program established and probably could take UC to a VaTech or Kansas St. type program if he stays. He will be able to dictate his own terms and become the King of Clifton. Down in Knoxville every single move of his will be scrutinized. I guess the biggest question is "Is it worth it?"

  14. #28
    Playoffs Cyclone792's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    6,267

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Kelly has a job with a BCS team that has an easier route to a BCS Bowl or BCS Championship game.
    Kelly himself has mentioned that, which is one reason why I'm not that concerned.

    If he bails, he bails, but he also knows that he's got a clear route to a national championship here in Cincinnati. If UC would go undefeated anytime in the near future, they're likely in the national championship, especially since they've shown a willingness to schedule one or two tough non-conference games (Oregon State last year, at Oklahoma, at Hawaii, etc.). Undefeated in the Big East and undefeated in non-conference with a couple nice wins, and the only way they're out is if there's other major conference undefeated teams.
    Barry Larkin - HOF, 2012

    Put an end to the Lost Decade.

  15. #29
    Rally Onion! Chip R's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    34,336

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Another plus with the UT job is that Javy and all his women attend the games.
    No wonder they average 100K per game.


    Chip this is something I will never understand with college football coaches. Kelly has a job with a BCS team that has an easier route to a BCS Bowl or BCS Championship game. He is well compensated as coach of UC but obviously not as much as he would be as coach of UT. He also is in a low stress situation. While UC football is starting to garner water cooler talk in Cincinnati, it still has a long way to go. Remember his decision to take the safety against WVU instead of punting the ball? That was big for maybe a day in Cincy, down in Knoxville that would be talked about non stop for weeks.

    IMO Kelly has a pretty good gig at UC. It isn't the mecca of college football but it also isn't Siberia. He is getting the program established and probably could take UC to a VaTech or Kansas St. type program if he stays. He will be able to dictate his own terms and become the King of Clifton. Down in Knoxville every single move of his will be scrutinized. I guess the biggest question is "Is it worth it?"

    BCS bowl, sure. BCS Championship game, not so much. Theoretically they have as good a shot as anyone but the Big East along with the ACC (and perhaps the Big 10) is going to have a tougher shot at getting into that game as someone from the SEC or Big 12 or Pac 10. They may be better than those teams but the polls don't always reflect that. There's no way a Big East team would get to the BCS Championship game with 2 losses like other teams have. There's no Big East championship game that would allow that. If Kelly stays here, trips to the Orange Bowl may become routine.

    It really depends on what Kelly wants. If he's happy being the proverbial one eyed king in the land of the blind, that's terrific. If he's hungering for something more, he has to know the pitfalls that go along with that. If he wants the attention and adulation he's going to have to accept the criticism. The only reason that safety was a topic of conversation was that the Bengals had the week off. If they were playing that weekend, it may have been a hot topic on a UC message board but everyone else would have been talking about the Bengals latest disaster.

    The way I see it is that these coaches want to prove they can be the best in their profession. Just like any competitive athlete, they want to prove themselves agains the best of the best. That's why high school coaches go to colleges and college coaches go to the bigger schools or the pros. Sometimes they are comfortable where they are at and they will stay there for life.
    The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-...24872650873160

  16. #30
    Member Sea Ray's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Posts
    15,534

    Re: Brian Kelly, leading candidate for Tennessee job...

    There is the money thing. UT would probably pay about $3mill/yr, UC about $1mill. $2mill is a lot of jack to leave on the table unless he has his eye on another job. The other issue is with the practice fields. They haven't secured financing yet and if Kelly doesn't see that happening he may want to bail.

    Hey, do any of you see this weekend's game vs Pitt having an impact on this decision one way or another? If UC loses, does it help push him to UT or not?


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25