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    Some Stats to Consider

    For the heck of it, I have some of the more advanced guys from the high minors shown in the table below. It looks to me like we seriously undervalue Adam Rosales, and Danny Dorn may be ready by mid-season. This team could have a couple options that could help w/o waiting for Alonso/Frazier/Soto/Francisco to arrive. I included some of the current players minor league numbers for some perspective.

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      Name		        Age	AB	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS
    Adam Rosales		25	1553	0.285	0.360	0.484	0.844
    Chris Valaika		23	1306	0.306	0.357	0.467	0.824
    Justin Turner		24	1133	0.310	0.377	0.445	0.822
    Paul Janish		26	1703	0.261	0.351	0.382	0.733
    	
    	
    Jeff Keppinger		N/A	2183	0.322	0.375	0.422	0.797
    Edwin Encarnacion	N/A	2423	0.291	0.352	0.451	0.803
    Brandon Phillips	N/A	2755	0.274	0.339	0.418	0.757
    Alex Gonzalez		N/A	1234	0.267	0.320	0.414	0.734
    	
    Ryan Freel		N/A	2769	0.269	0.360	0.397	0.757
    Joey Votto		N/A	2553	0.289	0.385	0.476	0.861
    Jay Bruce		N/A	1341	0.308	0.366	0.555	0.921
    Chris Dickerson		N/A	2202	0.260	0.363	0.415	0.778
    Norris Hopper		N/A	3431	0.289	0.343	0.335	0.678
    	
    Danny Dorn		24	990	0.297	0.387	0.528	0.915
    Sean Henry		23	1512	0.280	0.355	0.444	0.799
    Drew Stubbs		24	1177	0.269	0.367	0.415	0.782
    Shaun Cumberland	24	2241	0.270	0.331	0.400	0.731
    Chris Heisey		24	1174	0.292	0.366	0.435	0.801
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

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    Re: Some Stats to Consider

    Well Danny Dorn and Adam Rosales should be on the team. Other than that I don't see much to get pumped up about this year in terms of guys coming up.

    If Edwin were to move to left, Dorn would make a real nice platoon mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidty622 View Post
    Well Danny Dorn and Adam Rosales should be on the team. Other than that I don't see much to get pumped up about this year in terms of guys coming up.

    If Edwin were to move to left, Dorn would make a real nice platoon mate.
    I don't think that Dorn is on the team and Rosales is pretty iffy.
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    Re: Some Stats to Consider

    I'd be shocked if Dorn makes the team this year. Maybe a callup with a good season. Rosales depends on who they keep as far roster makeup, whether Hairston signs, Freel's healthy, Richar and Kepp aren't traded and are healthy etc.

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    Re: Some Stats to Consider

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    I don't think that Dorn is on the team and Rosales is pretty iffy.
    Huh, what was the point of your initial post then? Or did I just miss something here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Huh, what was the point of your initial post then? Or did I just miss something here?
    My point is that maybe they should be considered instead of trading a bunch of stuff for corner players. My second post was in response to a poster who seemed to suggest that those guys being on the roster was a foregone conclusion. I don't think the organization agrees.

    I think the team is going to deal a lot of its flexability in pursuit of corner players when the team already has them coming out its ears. What will be left to address the real needs up the middle or in the rotation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    My point is that maybe they should be considered instead of trading a bunch of stuff for corner players. My second post was in response to a poster who seemed to suggest that those guys being on the roster was a foregone conclusion. I don't think the organization agrees.

    I think the team is going to deal a lot of its flexability in pursuit of corner players when the team already has them coming out its ears. What will be left to address the real needs up the middle or in the rotation?
    I guess that depends on your definition of should. If you think should means that it will defiantly happen then sure. I have a different definition in mind.

    In the scenario that you proposed with the players that you provided I picked two that I thought should be on the team above the rest of the provided players.
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    Re: Some Stats to Consider

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    My point is that maybe they should be considered instead of trading a bunch of stuff for corner players. My second post was in response to a poster who seemed to suggest that those guys being on the roster was a foregone conclusion. I don't think the organization agrees.

    I think the team is going to deal a lot of its flexability in pursuit of corner players when the team already has them coming out its ears. What will be left to address the real needs up the middle or in the rotation?
    Ok then I sort of agree with you. Here's the thing though it's not the position it's the bat they would be paying for. The most generous expectations don't give us a true 3-4-5 hitter currently. I know there are other ways to go about it and I would if at all possible. But I think the organization is determined to make a deal for that bat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidty622 View Post
    I guess that depends on your definition of should. If you think should means that it will defiantly happen then sure. I have a different definition in mind.

    In the scenario that you proposed with the players that you provided I picked two that I thought should be on the team above the rest of the provided players.
    I agree with you. No problems. I thought you were saying that it was a done deal.

    Guess I need less Redszone and more sleep.
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    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS


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