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    Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    Reds re-signed Mike Lincoln:

    Reds sign Lincoln to two-year deal
    by Troy Renck on December 4, 2008


    While the Rockies are moving methodically in their search for relievers, a few have come off the board over the last few days. The Cincinnati Reds signed right-handed free agent Mike Lincoln to a two-year, $4-million deal accoding to contract information obtained by The Denver Post.

    Lincoln went 2-5 with a 4.48 ERA in 64 games last season. He will make $1.5 million in 2009 and $2.5 million in 2010. He also has financial incentives for games started and games finished.
    http://blogs.denverpost.com/rockies/...two-year-deal/

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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    Stupid move. Though there's nothing on the vaunted farm to take his place. Still, it's stupid.

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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Stupid move.
    Why? The money or just bringing him back at all?
    That was going to be the price to get him.

    I assume they have heard that Weathers is going elsewhere.
    Affeldt is gone.

    Between them, those guys represented 220 very well pitched innings out of the bullpen. That's a lot to replace. If the reds lost all three of those guys, they really needed to acquire outside bullpen help. As it is, that's less of a need.

    Financial incentives for games started....that's interesting.
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    He put up a 4.51 FIP in 2008, largely influenced a poor HR rate. However, that HR rate was way above what you'd expect and he's a strong groundball guy. Maybe I'm crazy but I don't hate it. I just hope it means we aren't bringing back Weathers.
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Stupid move. Though there's nothing on the vaunted farm to take his place. Still, it's stupid.
    Actually, yeah there is. Josh Roenicke, Carlos Fisher, and Robert Manuel are all capable of replacing him. I didn't mind him back on a one year deal but there's no way I would've given him two years.
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    I didn't care if they brought him back or not. I thought he was alright, but I also thought he could be easily replaced in-house. 2 million a year for 2 years...that, I have a problem with. Too much money and one year too many. Too much of an injury history for a multi-year deal IMO. But whatever, at least it's not an attrocious deal.
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    Two years is probably a stretch.
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    Good signing. The Reds have to bring in some veteran bullpen arms.

    IMO, it's not a good idea to have the pen be Cordero, Bray, Burton, and 3 or 4 rookies.
    The Reds simply do not have 3-4 rookies on the farm that will produce at a level better than Lincoln.

    2 million/year for a guy like Lincoln for 2 years is not bad at all. If someone doesn't like this move, can they suggest a better guy for the same price and years. If another club signs a better value this winter, someone is free to rebump this thread.

    If the Reds can't afford 2 million/year to shore up the pen and protect rookies from being thrown to the fire, we might as well contract the team. Good move.
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    Tale of two seasons for Lincoln.

    He put together one of the best two month stretches in baseball, then put together two of the worst.
    (from May 25th to the end of July he put up a .87 earnie w/ a .83 WHIP.....included was that 20ip/0 ER over 15 games)


    Having not pitched for a couple of years(correction/ 3.5 years).....I'm willing to say the grueling season took a toll on him and wore him down in August and early September.




    4 years, 2M? Good gamble
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    I think the money is a little more than I expected, but I'm glad to have Lincoln back. 2 years is fine.
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    If two years is too much, would you have preferred 1 year at 2.75 or 3 million? Because that's probably what it would've taken.
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    Blah.

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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    If everyone is okay with bringing him back for one year(I'm assuming everyone expects him to pitch well enough to earn the $2 mill this year,) than the second year isn't a problem.
    If the Reds have a glut of relievers after this year, trading a reliable bullpenner with one year at $2 mill left on his contract won't be hard.

    Complaining about a second year is looking for something to complain about IMO.
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    One year I would like ... Two years I don't like.
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    Re: Reds re-sign Mike Lincoln

    I just hope this means David Weathers is moving on. I prefer two years of Lincoln to one year of David Weathers.
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