Do the Reds have in-house options for starter #5....sure. But it is not a given and they do not have a surplus of starting pitching.
For Hal's sake, hopefully this happens........the reality is, as much I respect Hal McCoy as a writer, being a hall of famer and all, he's slipping. He's getting to the point where he's running with anything he can get his hands on just to have a 'scoop'....that's not good for himself or the fans......nothing wrong with reporting rumor, but not as fact.
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And while the fact is you are correct it may not be a surplus of major league pitchers, Daryl Thompson, Ramon Ramirez, Homer Bailey, Micah Owings and Matt Maloney all have value on the trade market. That is what matters in this conversation because the comment was made with the thought that the Reds could trade a guy or two to get other parts that they need.
Dye staying put?
White Sox general manager Ken Williams began his Winter Meetings media session Monday by putting to rest any present rumors concerning Jermaine Dye's reported trade to the Reds.
"No, we have not traded Jermaine Dye to the Cincinnati Reds or anywhere else," Williams said. "There's obvious interest on (Cincinnati's part), I'm not going to deny that. That would be a lie. But as we sit here, he will be a part of the Chicago White Sox until further notice."
Further notice probably won't come this week during the Winter Meetings, but Dye still remains the most moveable piece with the highest return on the current White Sox roster. He has a limited no-trade clause, blocking moves to six teams without his approval, including the Yankees, Mets, Red Sox and Phillies.
Williams did have a little fun when informed it was an "insider with the White Sox" who reportedly confirmed this deal as done to the Dayton Daily News.
"Who is a White Sox insider?" said Williams with a laugh. "Somebody from Chicago that works."
I miss Adam Dunn.
They have a guy like Micah Owings who has had success over a full season in the major leagues. They have a Ramon Ramirez who has put up good numbers up through the minor leagues, throws 88-92 MPH and has a plus change up. They have a guy like Homer Bailey who has had his struggles but still has the chance to go out there and dominate at times and is just 22. They have a guy like Daryl Thompson who has come through the system throwing up very strong numbers all the way up and has good stuff and is just 22. They have a guy like Matt Maloney who has average stuff but knows how to pitch and has put up impressive numbers all the way up the system. The Reds haven't had options like that in a long, long time. These guys aren't the Saarloos's, Miltons, Fogg's, Livingstons, Dumatraits, Hudsons and so on.
Ramon Ramirez really did impress in September, and performed well as the #5 starter.He was the only #5 starter who did do well last year. I'm not even sure we need to look for any starting pitching this off-season.
Thats bush-league Hal...there is a huge difference between "could" and "will be" announced, as Hal wrote yesterday...even if the deal goes down, that wording (is he trying to slip that by us as if he didn't say "will be announced") disappoints me.Dye on hold, Freel on the block?
By Hal McCoy | Monday, December 8, 2008, 08:20 PM
While the Cincinnati Reds and Chicago White have had discussions about outfielder Jermaine Dye and pitcher Homer Bailey, Reds general manager Walt Jocketty said there have not been recent discussions.
A soure close to the White Sox told The Dayton Daily News Sunday that a deal was imminent and could be announced at baseball’s annual winter meetings this week in Las Vegas.
“We’re not close to a deal and while we have talked to the White Sox, there hasn’t been anything this month.”
The Reds are seeking a righthanded power-hitting outfielder and Dye hit 34 homers last year. He will make $11 million in 2008 with a $12 million mutual option in 2009 - seemingly an affordable price tag with Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey Jr. off the roster.
So, the Reds and White Sox could announce a deal this week, re-visit it after the meetings or not make the trade at all.
Another available righthanded power-hitter is Houston shortstop Miguel Tejada and the Astros are searching for a young starting pitcher.
Bailey is 22 and a native Texan who resides in LaGrage.
The Reds search for a catcher could be solved if the Baltimore Orioles are willing to eat a portion of Ramon Hernandez’s $8 million contract for 2008. If they’d do that, the Reds would send them outfielder-infielder Ryan Freel.
Hernandez hit .257 last year with 15 homers and 65 RBIs.
Hal is really disappointing me...backpedaling makes a bad job look worse.
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