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    6 months of heartbreak Bob Borkowski's Avatar
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    Joe Gordon Goes into Hall of Fame

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...cle=1&catnum=0 NEW YORK (AP) - Joe Gordon joined former teammates Joe DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig and Bob Feller in the Hall of Fame. For the likes of Joe Torre, Jim Kaat and Ron Santo, it was another shutout. Gordon was elected Monday by a 12-member Veterans Committee composed of Hall members and historians that studied pre-1943 players. A nine-time All-Star, the late second baseman won five World Series titles with the New York Yankees and Cleveland.
    But another panel made up of the living 64 Hall of Famers didn't come close to picking anyone who started after World War II. Santo fell short, followed by Kaat, Tony Oliva, Gil Hodges and Torre.

    This marked the fourth straight time that nobody was chosen from the newer group.

    "It's not our job to vote someone in," Hall of Fame manager Dick Williams said by phone from Las Vegas, where the results were announced at baseball's winter meetings. "It's our job to consider the candidates."

    "I thought Kaat would get in. I voted for him. And I think Joe Torre will, too, when he's done managing," he said. "I missed quite a few times before I got in. I know what that's like."

    It took 75 percent—48 votes—for election and Santo did the best with 39. The former Cubs slugger led Kaat (38), Oliva (33), Hodges (28) and Torre (19).

    All 64 Hall voters sent a ballot. They were allowed to pick four players, and they listed an average of 3.3 names.

    "We just didn't have them lined up, I guess," Williams said.

    Rickey Henderson is the leading candidate in the upcoming Hall election by the Baseball Writers' Association of America. Results will be announced Jan. 12.

    Induction ceremonies in Cooperstown, N.Y., are July 26.

    Gordon got 10 votes, one more than needed. He began his career in 1938 with a championship Yankees team that included future Hall members DiMaggio, Gehrig, Bill Dickey, Red Ruffing and Lefty Gomez.

    "Flash" Gordon played in 1948 with the last Indians team to win the World Series. He finished in 1950 alongside future Hall of Famers Larry Doby, Lou Boudreau, Bob Lemon, Early Wynn and Feller.

    Gordon was the 1942 AL MVP, beating out Triple Crown winner Ted Williams, and hit .268 overall with 253 home runs and 975 RBIs, big power numbers for second basemen in that era. He died in 1978.

    "To me, he was a major Hall of Famer," Feller said by telephone from Las Vegas. "He'll probably go in as a Yankee because that's where he had most of his success. But he did well for us in Cleveland.

    "He was a wild swinger at the plate, a free swinger with power," he said. "He was an acrobat around the bag, he was all over the place in the field."

    Pitcher Allie Reynolds, traded from Cleveland to the Yankees for Gordon after the 1946 season, fell one vote short of election.

    The Veterans Committee format has been changed twice since 2001, when charges of cronyism followed the election of Bill Mazeroski. The 15-member panel was broadened to include every living Hall member, but it didn't pick anyone in three elections.

    "When our board of directors restructured the Veterans Committee after the 2007 election, it did so with the goal of ensuring the voters the living Hall of Famers would review their peers," Hall chairman Jane Forbes Clark said Monday. "The process was not redesigned with the goal of necessarily electing someone."

    The veterans panels will next vote on players in 2010. Managers, umpires and executives will be considered in 2009.
    Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
    I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Borkowski View Post
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...cle=1&catnum=0 NEW YORK (AP) -

    The Veterans Committee format has been changed twice since 2001, when charges of cronyism followed the election of Bill Mazeroski. The 15-member panel was broadened to include every living Hall member, but it didn't pick anyone in three elections.

    "When our board of directors restructured the Veterans Committee after the 2007 election, it did so with the goal of ensuring the voters the living Hall of Famers would review their peers," Hall chairman Jane Forbes Clark said Monday. "The process was not redesigned with the goal of necessarily electing someone."

    The veterans panels will next vote on players in 2010. Managers, umpires and executives will be considered in 2009.
    Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
    Gordon deserves to be in the Hall, I think. But I feel vindicated by the first paragraph listed above. Ever since he went in, I have preached loud and long that Bill Mazeroski does NOT belong in the Hall of Fame. When it happened I remember that the opinion of several people here on this board was that it was his defense that made him legitimate. Baloney.

    I hadn't heard that the decision had been a point of controversy but it certainly deserved to be. Mazeroski was a good second baseman, but Hall of Fame? No Way.
    I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure.

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    Re: Joe Gordon Goes into Hall of Fame

    Dude could rake a little.



    Code:
    JOE GORDON
    
    GIVEN NAME: Joseph Lowell Gordon
    BORN: 2/18/1915  Los Angeles, California  DIED: 4/14/1978  Sacramento, California
    BAT: R  THROW: R  HEIGHT: 5'10"  WEIGHT: 180  MLB DEBUT: 4/18/1938
    CAREER GAMES BY POSITION:  1B: 30  2B: 1519  SS: 2  
    
    YEAR TEAM         AGE G    AB    R    H    2B  3B  HR   HR%   RBI  BB   SO   SB   CS  AVG   SLG  OBA   OPS
    1938 Yankees      23  127   458   83  117  24   7  25   5.46   97   56   72   11   3  .255  .502  .340  .843 
    1939 Yankees      24  151   567   92  161  32   5  28   4.94  111   75   57   11  10  .284  .506  .370  .876 
    1940 Yankees      25  155   616  112  173  32  10  30   4.87  103   52   57   18   8  .281  .511  .340  .851 
    1941 Yankees      26  156   588  104  162  26   7  24   4.08   87   72   80   10   9  .276  .466  .358  .824 
    1942 Yankees      27  147   538   88  173  29   4  18   3.35  103   79   95   12   6  .322  .491  .409  .900 
    1943 Yankees      28  152   543   82  135  28   5  17   3.13   69   98   75    4   7  .249  .413  .365  .778 
    1946 Yankees      31  112   376   35   79  15   0  11   2.93   47   49   72    2   5  .210  .338  .308  .645 
    1947 Indians      32  155   562   89  153  27   6  29   5.16   93   62   49    7   3  .272  .496  .346  .842 
    1948 Indians      33  144   550   96  154  21   4  32   5.82  124   77   68    5   2  .280  .507  .371  .879 
    1949 Indians      34  148   541   74  136  18   3  20   3.70   84   83   33    5   6  .251  .407  .355  .762 
    1950 Indians      35  119   368   59   87  12   1  19   5.16   57   56   44    4   1  .236  .429  .340  .770 
         TOTALS          1566  5707  914 1530 264  52 253   4.43  975  759  702   89  60  .268  .466  .357  .822 
         LG AVERAGE            5755  810 1571 271  64 106   1.85  754  679  537   69  49  .273  .398  .352  .750 
         POS AVERAGE           5638  750 1482 260  54  93   1.65  696  619  553   67  49  .263  .378  .338  .715 
    
    YEAR TEAM          RC   RCAA  RCAP OWP   RC/G   TB   EBH  ISO   SEC  BPA  IBB HBP SAC  SF GIDP OUTS  PA   POS
    1938 Yankees        82   -1    4  .496   6.14  230   56  .247  .393  .574   0   3   3   0   0   347   520  2B
    1939 Yankees       107   28   36  .636   6.64  287   65  .222  .374  .543   0   2   4   0  15   435   648  2B
    1940 Yankees       107   15   26  .570   6.16  315   72  .231  .344  .548   0   3   6   0  12   469   677  2B
    1941 Yankees        98   13   31  .566   5.85  274   57  .190  .330  .505   0   4   1   0  16   452   665  2B
    1942 Yankees       108   43   50  .716   7.29  264   51  .169  .338  .531   0   1   7   0  22   400   625  2B
    1943 Yankees        84   21   29  .627   5.15  224   50  .164  .352  .471   0   2   7   0  18   440   650  2B
    1946 Yankees        38  -15   -4  .349   3.23  127   26  .128  .263  .380   0   4   2   0  14   318   431  2B
    1947 Indians        96   27   38  .645   6.04  279   62  .224  .347  .528   0   1   1   0  16   429   626  2B
    1948 Indians       106   30   35  .648   6.86  279   57  .227  .376  .549   0   3   3   0  16   417   633  2B
    1949 Indians        79    1    5  .505   4.90  220   41  .155  .318  .455   0   4   4   0  20   435   632  2B
    1950 Indians        56   -1    9  .489   5.13  158   32  .193  .356  .491   0   2   3   0  10   295   429  2B
         TOTALS        961  161  259  .583   5.83 2657  569  .197  .346  .510   0  29  41   0 159  4437  6536 
         LG AVERAGE    849    0    0  .500   5.15 2288  441  .125  .255  .447   0  23  78   0 125  4437  6536 
         POS AVERAGE   744 -107    0  .438   4.51 2129  407  .115  .237  .422   0  19  92   0 140  4437  6369 
    
    
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