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  • Some people don't like him and try to dupe him into looking like a fool.

    8 17.02%
  • He's lazy.

    4 8.51%
  • He's overzealous about getting a "scoop."

    29 61.70%
  • His sources are old.

    6 12.77%
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    Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Seems like he never gets it right on major organizational moves and trades.
    "Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill

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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    For Hal's sake, hopefully this happens........the reality is, as much I respect Hal McCoy as a writer, being a hall of famer and all, he's slipping. He's getting to the point where he's running with anything he can get his hands on just to have a 'scoop'....that's not good for himself or the fans.
    My thoughts exactly!
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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Can we give him some slack for the Oester report...that deal was in place.

    He blew the Krivsky report.

    Frankly I think the jury may still be out on the Dye trade.

    Am I missing any other blunders (major) that he made?

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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Can we give him some slack for the Oester report...that deal was in place.

    He blew the Krivsky report.

    Frankly I think the jury may still be out on the Dye trade.

    Am I missing any other blunders (major) that he made?
    He blew the Dan O'Brien hiring--saying Krivsky had been hired.

    He repeatedly called the Griffey to Reds deal dead.

    He repeatedly said there was no way Griffey would accept being traded from the Reds, and that we ignorant readers should "get off it." This because he thought Griffey had a no-trade clause, which he didn't. He was a 10-5 player, which for some reason, Hal can't distinguish between.

    And there have been others which I can't recall at the moment...
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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Then explain to me how he got in the writers' portion of the Hall of Fame?
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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    Then explain to me how he got in the writers' portion of the Hall of Fame?
    Folksy, metaphor laden articles and simply, time with one paper covering one organization.
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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    He repeatedly called the Griffey to Reds deal dead.
    He was repeating what John Allen said.

    Hal has gotten some things right. Also, he clearly called the Dye trade a rumor.

    I don't get why people are piling on Hal. Would you rather have someone not report anything until the Reds issue a press release? Would you rather have not had any information about the possible Dye-Homer trade? Makes for a boring offseason. Hal is good at scooping up legitimate rumors in the offseason. I'm glad he is still reporting for the Reds, and I think when he retires, we are going to get a lot less information in the offseason.
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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    He was repeating what John Allen said.

    Hal has gotten some things right. Also, he clearly called the Dye trade a rumor.

    I don't get why people are piling on Hal. Would you rather have someone not report anything until the Reds issue a press release? Would you rather have not had any information about the possible Dye-Homer trade? Makes for a boring offseason. Hal is good at scooping up legitimate rumors in the offseason. I'm glad he is still reporting for the Reds, and I think when he retires, we are going to get a lot less information in the offseason.
    McCoy > Fay

    CTrent/TonyJackson > Fay

    It could be a lot worse.
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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    He blew the Dan O'Brien hiring--saying Krivsky had been hired.

    He repeatedly called the Griffey to Reds deal dead.

    He repeatedly said there was no way Griffey would accept being traded from the Reds, and that we ignorant readers should "get off it." This because he thought Griffey had a no-trade clause, which he didn't. He was a 10-5 player, which for some reason, Hal can't distinguish between.

    And there have been others which I can't recall at the moment...
    He's been wrong numerous times. His playbook includes blaming his editors. The one that comes to mind is when his story headlined "Hall of Famer Steve Garvey". If that was my article I would have stated it was a mistake that shouldn't have happened at this paper and I'll take care of it immediately. Instead he gets defensive and says he has no control over what his editors do and then the mistake stays on the website. It never did get corrected. He needs to realize that stuff like that reflects poorly on him.

    One thing is for sure, he does not like to be caught with an inaccuracy in his articles.

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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    My thoughts exactly!
    I hope that's wrong, too...

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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    I'm really tired of people running Hal McCoy's name through the mud. He's been an incredible writer for over three decades, and he's one of the best human beings you'll ever meet. I was a journalism student at OSU, and he constantly took the time to reply to my emails, give me tips, and invited me up to the press box at GABP. He's a 100% class act. He's made a few mistakes, yes. So has Marty. So did Joe. So has Vin Scully. I'm not saying he should never be criticized, but I am saying some of the heat he catches around here is entirely unfair.

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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    He tries to be first to report things that are not true?
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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpup View Post
    He tries to be first to report things that are not true?
    I guess we can put Peter Gammons and Ken Rosenthal in the same category? Reporters go by their sources. If someone inside the White Sox organization said this about a Bailey for Dye deal while being off the record, sure the White Sox are going to deny it to the media if talks are still ungoing. You don't think the Reds aren't doing the same thing with their trade discussions? It is part of the game.

    Like I said, come the end of the week I think we'll all have to owe Hal McCoy a big apology.
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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Slow news day at Redszone?
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

    I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

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    Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Slow news day at Redszone?
    7:30 am on the East Coast. Another long day ahead. With the Winter Meetings on, there is no such thing as sleep.
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