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    Quote Originally Posted by paintmered View Post
    If you want to be employed for the rest of your life, learn Chinese, Arabic or Farsi.
    I'm not sure how tongue-in-cheek of a comment that is, but I'd seriously consider that. Do you have any idea how realistic of an opportunity it would be for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I'm not sure how tongue-in-cheek of a comment that is, but I'd seriously consider that. Do you have any idea how realistic of an opportunity it would be for me?
    Check your PMs. And I was being completely serious.
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    That's very practical, but it didn't work for me. Even if it means not having much job security, I'm looking to explore other options. As for architecture, I don't think it's for me.
    You REALLY SHOULD consider becoming an architect. [/george costanza]
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    You REALLY SHOULD consider becoming an architect. [/george costanza]
    I'd do a better job of being George Costanza.

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    One thing you should realize is that your experience as a student may not necessarily be an indication of what your professional life will be.
    Some stuff may be insufferable to study, but the actual practice much more interesting. Finance, in my experience, was much more interesting AFTER graduation.

    Finance+Language+Travel = emerging markets/foreign securities analyst/trader/fund manager = $$$$. You could be another Mark Mobius.
    (Don't worry, Wall St will still be there when you graduate).

    ...and the foreign service. My sister went in to it...already in her 40s (after a messy divorce...etc). Loves it. She's just finishing a stint in Malaysia, after jobs in Argentina and Germany. Now on to Jordan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    One thing you should realize is that your experience as a student may not necessarily be an indication of what your professional life will be.
    Some stuff may be insufferable to study, but the actual practice much more interesting. Finance, in my experience, was much more interesting AFTER graduation.

    Finance+Language+Travel = emerging markets/foreign securities analyst/trader/fund manager = $$$$. You could be another Mark Mobius.
    (Don't worry, Wall St will still be there when you graduate).

    ...and the foreign service. My sister went in to it...already in her 40s (after a messy divorce...etc). Loves it. She's just finishing a stint in Malaysia, after jobs in Argentina and Germany. Now on to Jordan.

    Good Luck. I know you're going to do great.
    I was thinking the same thing. There are schools with specific international business programs, which might marry the detail-, number-oriented stuff with the global interests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I was thinking the same thing. There are schools with specific international business programs, which might marry the detail-, number-oriented stuff with the global interests.
    Thunderbird is supposed to be that for MBAs.
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    On a different track a bit, not far from accounting would be database administrator. You are good with numbers and seem to have a (based on some of your posts) a good feel for relationships. The pay is excellent, and the training to become a certifed DBA is relatively inexpensive. In fact you could by the MS course for about $150. average MS DBA salary is $80K and up. Oracle DBA's make a LOT MORE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    You REALLY SHOULD consider becoming an architect. [/george costanza]
    Don't even think about aspiring to be a city planner, Wily Mo. And make sure you get that GPA down to a 2.0 so it's right smack in the middle of mediocrity.

    On a serious note, camisa, what worked for me was going down the path of what I was good at that I also kinda, somewhat enjoyed. I'm not sure how much of a help that is to you though.
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    This intrigues me a little. I'll look into it more. Do you have any experiences with it?
    Unfortunately no, but it just seems like with the non-arts related things that you listed, there are plenty of areas that could branch into..

    You could be a teacher, get involved in government and or various different advocacy agencies, own a baseball team (Kevin McClatchy of the Pirates, found that on Google), travel companies, etc.

    Someone mentioned Rick Steves, but I'd be pretty happy taking Samantha Brown from the Travel Channel's job...she's done some cool series about Europe and Central/South America...

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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I just read some online articles about it, and it looks like it's not for me. I have a heavy interest in psychology, for what it's worth, but once again, it's not something I want to base a career on.
    You might consider sociology as well.

    As for political science, I majored in it as an undergrad and am a poli sci PhD student now, so I can answer any questions you may have about it.

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    Possibly something with travel agency, tourism, or cruises if you don't like "business"

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    The first thing that popped into my mind was also International Business. Your description of your preferences leads me to believe that you need to interact with people. The fact that you sought the advice of the zone tends to confirm that. So, if you do get into IB, you need to be on the front line and not back in the home office.

    A big part of learning a language is being unafraid to make mistakes in speaking it. It never worked for me because I am too much of a perfectionist. It sounds to me as if you are more outgoing and would be willing to take chances. Your entry into International Business should be your linguistic ability and not your business skills. In this increasingly connected world a fluent, culturally aware foreign language speaker with modest business training is more valuable than the reverse. You would be the customer contact, not the person working the numbers on the details of the deal.

    I would take some junior college business refresher and language courses. The experience will permit you to reflect on this plan to see if it is really something you want to pursue. You also need to make good grades to demonstrate to perspective colleges that you have matured and become serious. Colleges understand that competent people often get poor grades initially for a variety of reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    On a different track a bit, not far from accounting would be database administrator. You are good with numbers and seem to have a (based on some of your posts) a good feel for relationships. The pay is excellent, and the training to become a certifed DBA is relatively inexpensive. In fact you could by the MS course for about $150. average MS DBA salary is $80K and up. Oracle DBA's make a LOT MORE.
    I concur. camisadelgolf, it seems like you have the math skills and like language. While a DBA job might not be specifically for you, I'd suggest you look toward computer science. There are always jobs in that field and once you get your feet wet, the advancement opportunities are excellent if you demonstrate the kind of drive, creativity, and competency I've seen from you. That practice also involves a lot of relationship management for the top tier, so if you can speak both geek and human it's nothing but a ladder to the top of any organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    This intrigues me a little. I'll look into it more. Do you have any experiences with it?
    In about another week or so, I'll have a grad degree in Political Science, so here's what I can tell you:

    At the grad level, the quantitative stuff is pretty rigorous. If you can make it through the initial methods class(es), you can get into the good stuff, where you'll either gravitate towards American or the Comparative/International side of the discipline.

    (Or if you're a true sadist, you'll get into the Methods.)

    I went into the program for some different reasons for most. However, in your case, it might open some doors and get you thinking about some things that most folks don't really consider. Things like interning for an elected official, getting involved with a lobbying group, working with a non-profit legal group, etc. See how law is made, how the judicial system works, see how a regulatory agency works, that kind of thing.

    If you'd be going back at the undergrad level, a Bachelor's in Political Science would be a nice way to get yourself into a Masters in Public Admin program at the graduate level. There are a gazillion opportunities in government branches/agencies when you look at county, city, state, and federal levels. The MPA would also serve you well at a nonprofit / non-government organization.

    As for the timing of everything, I'd say that this is the perfect time to start a program. Governments are slashing budgets in response to the crappy economy. Most signs point to a rebound some time in 2010. If that holds, then you'll start seeing most government agencies begin filling the positions in 2010-2011 that they are currently holding vacant or eliminating. With a degree in sight and an internship under your belt, you'd be hitting the market at a good time to find a full-time job with a lot of long-term potential.


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