Turner is a second baseman, not a SS.
I miss Adam Dunn.
Freel on the deal
Posted by JohnFay at 12/9/2008 7:13 PM EST on Cincinnati.com
Ryan Freel was happy for a fresh start but still getting his mind around getting traded:
"A piece of me is excited. But I'm upset because of my relationship with the fans in Cincinnati. It's been tough. But you can't look at the past. I'm still playing baseball. But it's kind of an emotional time. I'm torn."
Say what you will about Freel but you can't dispute the fact that the guy played his heart out every night.
I miss Adam Dunn.
I think it's the height of stupid baseball to hand a guy like Hanigan a job based on 100 or so ABs if there are better/proven players to be had out there. Maybe Hanigan continues to play well next year and the team unloads Hernandez for a prospect or a pick. Maybe he doesn't. The point is, at least there is now a known commodity that can provide league-average at the position.
24 Years and Counting...
This looks like a solid deal for the Reds. Turner at best could be an utility IFr and Waring is a contact challenged 3B who K'd more than a third of the time in Low-A. I expect that Hernandez will be plenty motivated considering his contract status.
Walt on the deal
Posted by JohnFay at 12/9/2008 6:52 PM EST on Cincinnati.com
Walt Jocketty targeted Ramon Hernandez as early as last season.
"We thought he was the perfect fit. He'll provide good leaders, good offense in our part and handle the staff."
The reports are Hernandez didn't do that last year in Baltimore.
"That was part of reports. We had scouts who saw him in the past. He talked about it. We think a change of scenery will do him good. i talked to him. He's excited about the trade."
Said Dusty Baker: "I remember him as a young catcher in Oakland. They had a good staff there. He'll be good for out staff."
Jocketty would not say how much money was exchanged in the deal. It was at least $1 million.
I miss Adam Dunn.
It's a small move in the whole scheme of things and there's a little bit of upside involved if he has a resurgent year. I just see it as more or less a shuffling of deck chairs move that fritters away more payroll. I'd happily eat crow if he goes out OPS's .775.
"Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013
How much upside does he really have. He's about to turn 23, was mediocre at A ball, and projects to be a LF/1B where his bat doesn't project at all. I personally think he's a non prospect.- Waring is one of those high risk/ high reward types where we'll either never hear about him again or will be smacking ourselves in the forehead for years to come
As for Hernandez vs. Freel. Well I don't think Freel is going to be worth much until he rekindles his plate discipline of past. He fluked out 100 at-bats in '08 and still wasn't all that good. With his mediocre defensive skills, and ridiculous baserunning, I hardly even like him as a bench option these days.
I'm not in love with Hernandez, but I think he should get back above the .750 OPS range with the league switch. At just a one year pact, I'm not that worried about his game plummeting. He should be fairly averagish.
Even if you like Hanigan, there's still going to be 200 at-bats left over for the backup. In most cases 2 catchers are needed, and I certainly haven't been convinced that Hanigan can carry the entire load. I like the idea that every game next year we should be comfortable with the catcher in the line-up, and that's a good thing. No more Bako, Valentin, or whatever. That's a sneaky upgrade. I don't care about the stuff we gave up, so in my mind, it's a 1 year 2-4M deal, and for a competent catcher, that's a pretty reasonable short term solution and IMO a bargain when considering the price of alternatives.
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