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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Random note that was posted on the Orioles board (and this is killing me today with it affecting my two favorite teams, LOL ):

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1121

    The trade in which the Orioles will send catcher Ramon Hernandez to the Reds for utility man Ryan Freel is expected to be announced today.
    Another mention at the Baltimore Sun: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/spor...de_update.html

    Apparently, the Ramon Hernandez deal is slightly sweeter for the Orioles than previously reported. The O's are believed to be getting two mid-level prospects and fourth outfielder Ryan Freel for Ramon.

    Just waiting for an announcement.
    They better not be two higher level prospects if it is indeed two players!
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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMcGavin View Post
    Ramon Hernandez is better than Freel. The prospect(s) you'd get when Hernandez leaves would be better than Heisey. Why wouldn't you do that deal?
    I'd prefer to hang onto Heisey as I think he could develop into a decent major leaguer. I'd offer Freel + Watson and see if they bite. If they absolutely insist on Heisey being in the deal then I may bite, especially if he really is a Type A FA.
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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Heisey + Freel for Hernandez?

    Sign me up.

    My guess is it could be one of the guys who could be exposed to the Rule 5. The Orioles get their pick.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    I'm not liking the looks of this at all.
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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I'd prefer to hang onto Heisey as I think he could develop into a decent major leaguer. I'd offer Freel + Watson and see if they bite. If they absolutely insist on Heisey being in the deal then I may bite, especially if he really is a Type A FA.
    He is... http://www.nypost.com/seven/11042008...ngs_136998.htm

    Hernandez's last two seasons were down years and they still netted him Type A status this year, so barring injury next year it's likely he'd qualify as a Type A guy again.

    But my question still stands, are the Reds allowed to decline his option for 2010 and then turn around and offer him arb?

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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Deal done? Holds on
    Posted by JohnFay at 12/9/2008 3:02 PM EST on Cincinnati.com

    Just saw Reds PR Rob Butcher leave a meeting and walked rapidly toward where he might write a press release. My guess: The Ramon Hernandez-for-Ryan Freel deal is about to be announced.

    Just spoke to Butcher. No announcement is scheduled -- yet.

    The Baltimore Sun guys believe the deal is awaiting approval of the commissioner's office.

    Stay tuned.

    http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...cincinnati.com
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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I'm not liking the looks of this at all.
    Why is that?

    Like Freel or Heisey that much, or dislike Hernandez that much?

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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    nm

    BTW, how'd I do with my trade idea?

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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    You can just about bet it will be 2 mid-level decent 'spects, Wayne will see to that. My guess is Freel, Maloney/Wood & Turner/Henry. Those guys are decent prospects but are maybe a tad undervalued here. I hope it's more like Freel, Cumberland & Jukich for Hernandez and 2 Mill.
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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Why is that?

    Like Freel or Heisey that much, or dislike Hernandez that much?
    Oh it's not about Freel.

    I just don't like the thought of throwing in two prospects. Mid level or not.
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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Wayne traded for Cumberland, Henry & Jukich. Maybe he will again.
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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Fay
    Just saw Reds PR Rob Butcher leave a meeting and walked rapidly toward where he might write a press release. My guess: The Ramon Hernandez-for-Ryan Freel deal is about to be announced.

    Just spoke to Butcher. No announcement is scheduled -- yet.

    The Baltimore Sun guys believe the deal is awaiting approval of the commissioner's office.

    Stay tuned.
    Quote Originally Posted by John Fay
    I'm hearing that Ramon Hernandez-for-Ryan Freel deal is close -- very close. The Reds may send a prospect or two to the Orioles in the deal. Because more than $1 million is involved it have to approved by the commissioner office.

    The Baltimore Sun reported on its website that the deal could be announced very soon.

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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Done (almost)

    3:28 p.m. -- Reds, O's agree on trade
    The Reds have reached preliminary agreement with the Orioles on a trade that will send catcher Ramon Hernandez to Cincinnati for outfielder Ryan Freel and two prospects, according to a major-league source.

    The deal is pending the approval of the commissioner's office, because it involves a cash transaction of more than $1 million.

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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Jocketty: We'll have somethnig
    Posted by JohnFay at 12/9/2008 3:02 PM EST on Cincinnati.com

    Just talked to Walt Jocketty. He would not say that the Ramon Hernandez-for-Ryan Freel deal is done.

    But he hinted that it's close.

    "I'll tell you all about it later," he said.

    Does that mean you'll have something to announce?

    "We're meeting at 4:15, right?" Jocketty said.

    That's the time of our daily meeting.

    But as walked away, he said: "We'll have something."

    The Baltimore Sun guys believe the deal is awaiting approval of the commissioner's office because the Orioles will send $1 million to the Reds in the deal.

    Stay tuned.

    http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...cincinnati.com
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    Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez?

    Freel+Farney+Heisey?
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.


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