How the opinions of Juan Rivera, RedsZone's darling child, change after Cyclone speaks out against him...
How the opinions of Juan Rivera, RedsZone's darling child, change after Cyclone speaks out against him...
Mine hasn't changed, but I'm sure everyone already knew that. I'm just tired of arguing.Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one."
--Woody Hayes
Get me Pat the bat.
Hugs, smiling, and interactive Twitter accounts, don't mean winning baseball. Until this community understands that we are cursed to relive the madness.
Make a good argument someday and maybe someone will agree with you.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
I never made a post in support of Rivera and I'm glad to see Cyclone convince others of his weaknesses...
Given the amount of time remaining in the offseason, I don't think the Reds should get stuck with either of those two options. My thinking is I want to keep the flyers on the bench, which means no one's getting $3M.
We're talking about a middle of the lineup bat here. It ought to be someone you really want or someone with big upside. Rivera's just not that guy.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
That wasn't a cheap bust on Cyclone? My apologies if it wasn't, but it came across as ... well, something not too cool.
I never made a post in support of Rivera and I'm glad to see Cyclone convince others of his weaknesses...
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
It's not looking so good in LF so far, is it?
I really think Walt's hamstringing himself a bit by limiting his search to righty hitters.
Hermida's a better target than any of these guys and it's not even really close. That kid would mash at GAB.
"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?" ~ Jim Bouton
Is that how it read? Not my intention at all. I meant Cyclone is very influential. I have the utmost admiration for Cyclone as a poster. I never understood why we have spent the last few months discussing Juan Rivera as a middle of the order corner outfielder. There really isn't a single part of his game that stands out to me. He would have been a nice pickup a few years, but his ship has since sailed.
I'm a little surprised by your response though...
It read nasty to me. My bad. Sorry about the confusion. PM me if you've got any more questions, no reason to beat it into the dirt on the public board.
Is that how it read? Not my intention at all. I meant Cyclone is very influential. I have the utmost admiration for Cyclone as a poster. I never understood why we have spent the last few months discussing Juan Rivera as a middle of the order corner outfielder. There really isn't a single part of his game that stands out to me. He would have been a nice pickup a few years, but his ship has since sailed.
I'm a little surprised by your response though...
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
He's really the best of the 3 choices offensively. Just get ready for some ghastly LF defense, though.
this was on mlbtraderumours with a link: Baldelli a Red??
"Winter meetings, Day 3: Baldelli a Red?
12:25 AM Thu, Dec 11, 2008 | Permalink
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By Joe McDonald
Journal Sports Writer
LAS VEGAS _ A group of Cincinnati Reds personnel, including manager Dusty Baker, were playing roulette Tuesday night. A member of the contingent yelled "Put it on No. 5 for Rocco Baldelli" and now it appears the Reds are having talks with his agent.
Baldelli has worn No. 5 for the Rays his entire career. The Red Sox were also interested in the Rhode Island native. He met with the Red Sox at Fenway Park a few weeks ago to educate them on his health and mitochondrial disorder.
During the meetings here at the Bellagio Hotel, it appears the Sox have stepped back with their interest in the outfielder. "
Well he wont wear #5 here.. maybe #15? or #6?
What is better or safer about Jermaine Dye?
Dye also has a poor BB rate and is also useless unless he's hitting .300.
Dye broke his leg in 2001 and spent 2002 recovering. He was fine after that. Yet Rivera's broken leg is somehow sticking in your craw?
Plus Dye is older, a worse defender, and ridiculously more expensive.
Here are Dye's stats from the past 5 years:
Not really a stat line you can set your watch to.Code:Year Team G AB R H HR RBI BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG 2004 OAK 137 532 87 141 23 80 49 128 4 2 .329 .464 .265 2005 CHW 145 529 74 145 31 86 39 99 11 4 .333 .512 .274 2006 CHW 146 539 103 170 44 120 59 118 7 3 .385 .622 .315 2007 CHW 138 508 68 129 28 78 45 107 2 1 .317 .486 .254 2008 CHW 154 590 96 172 34 96 44 104 3 2 .344 .541 .292
I don't understand why you think he's better and safer than Juan Rivera.
Last edited by Johnny Footstool; 12-11-2008 at 01:09 AM.
"I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful
Okay, you guys are making me sway towards Juan Rivera's way. Two year deal with an option. I wouldn't mind Badelli either to platoon with Dickinson in CF.
If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.
The Red Sox backing off is probably not related to Baldelli's health situation. They're supposedly talking to the D-Backs about swapping Julio Lugo for Eric Byrnes.this was on mlbtraderumours with a link: Baldelli a Red??
"Winter meetings, Day 3: Baldelli a Red?
12:25 AM Thu, Dec 11, 2008 | Permalink
Joe McDonald Email
By Joe McDonald
Journal Sports Writer
LAS VEGAS _ A group of Cincinnati Reds personnel, including manager Dusty Baker, were playing roulette Tuesday night. A member of the contingent yelled "Put it on No. 5 for Rocco Baldelli" and now it appears the Reds are having talks with his agent.
Baldelli has worn No. 5 for the Rays his entire career. The Red Sox were also interested in the Rhode Island native. He met with the Red Sox at Fenway Park a few weeks ago to educate them on his health and mitochondrial disorder.
During the meetings here at the Bellagio Hotel, it appears the Sox have stepped back with their interest in the outfielder. "
Well he wont wear #5 here.. maybe #15? or #6?
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