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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

    Isn't Tavarez spanish for Patterson?

    same as it ever was, same as it ever was..
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

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    same as it ever was, same as it ever was..
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I think RedsZone's biggest worry about acquiring Tavares is how Dusty Baker would use him. Odds are, because he's a speedy center fielder with a history of success (in the uneducated fans' eyes), he would probably lead off, despite being the most likely player to lead the team in outs.
    Bingo. Taveras might be a useful part. The Dusty would likely try to make him a starting CF and ride the "speed and CF leads off" horse until our eyes bleed. He'd go from useful part to anchor in a matter of months.

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I would be more concerned about Taveres and his OBP rather than his OPS. As a leadoff hitter his job would be to get on base not hit the ball out of the park. Im not saying that his OBP is anything to write home about just the way I would judge a speedy leadoff CF.
    Same here. While you are only a leadoff batter once per game, I'd rather not start off the first inning with an out 65-70% of the time. Of corse power is always nice, but for a player like Taveras his OBP is the sole source of his offensive value.

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Isn't Tavarez spanish for Patterson?
    I wouldn't say he's Patterson, but he's definitely Pattersonesque and could have a similar outcome if utilized in the same manner as Mr. Eyebrows.

    Heck, Patterson wouldn't have been Patterson last year if someone with a lick of sense didn't lead him off 250+ times.
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

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    No, no, no...you have to get HANK AARON to E-mail him and tell him that. Apparently, that's the only person Dusty listens to.

    Does Dusty know Hank Aaron? My knowledge has been a bit fuzzy on that since he's been here.
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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    I wouldn't say he's Patterson, but he's definitely Pattersonesque and could have a similar outcome if utilized in the same manner as Mr. Eyebrows.

    Heck, Patterson wouldn't have been Patterson last year if someone with a lick of sense didn't lead him off 250+ times.
    He might be Pattersonesque at the plate but I'd argue CP is the better defender by a pretty good margin.
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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

    Oh my goodness.

    A right handed, poorer fielding Corey Patterson will surely be patrolling CF for my beloveds next season.

    I know it's gonna happen because it's the absolute worst case scenario.

    Depending on who they nab to play LF, this could be one of the worst offensive ballclubs in Baseball next season.
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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

    With the Reds taking on the kid from Colorado in the Rule 5, I can see a scenario where we trade the Rox a player for Willy T and the rights to the R5 kid.

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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

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    With the Reds taking on the kid from Colorado in the Rule 5, I can see a scenario where we trade the Rox a player for Willy T and the rights to the R5 kid.
    Patton's already moved on to the Baby Bears.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

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    Oh my goodness.

    A right handed, poorer fielding Corey Patterson will surely be patrolling CF for my beloveds next season.

    I know it's gonna happen because it's the absolute worst case scenario.

    Depending on who they nab to play LF, this could be one of the worst offensive ballclubs in Baseball next season.
    It's depressing, isn't it?
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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

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    Patton's already moved on to the Baby Bears.
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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

    Ltlabner predicts members of Redszone will be jumping from the upper deck of GABP when Taveras gets 400 leadoff plate appearances while posting a .300 OBP
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

    I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Ltlabner predicts members of Redszone will be jumping from the upper deck of GABP when Taveras gets 400 leadoff plate appearances while posting a .300 OBP
    I will be leading the charge, to be sure.
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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

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    I will be leading the charge, to be sure.
    I won't be. Someone has to man the controls around here.
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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

    If Willy Taveras could

    a) be held to a strict platoon with Dickerson and only start against LHers

    b) come in as a defensive OF on his non-starts as a defensive repalcement to guard a lead - shifting Dickerson to LF

    c) be required to try and bunt for a hit at least once a start

    d) OBP at least .350 and steal bases at a 90% (+) clip

    e) hit 8th

    he might have value, but he would come out in one of his first spring games, have three or four hits , steal several bases, score 3 or 4 runs and Dusty would be smitten the rest of the year - no matter if he hit .240 and had a sub-.300 OBP

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    Re: Rotoworld predicts Willy Taveras as Reds CFer, leadoff hitter

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Ltlabner predicts members of Redszone will be jumping from the upper deck of GABP when Taveras gets 400 leadoff plate appearances while posting a .300 OBP
    Nah, he should be able to put up at least a .310 OBP.


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