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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    He also gave up a .900 OPS bat for well, just about nothing.
    Probably a situation he inherited though.

    Dunn was polite about it, but he had already made up his mind to get out of here. Looks like Dunn is tired of playing on a losing team and wants to go to a contender, based on what has been said about him liking LA and Chicago.

    IMO, given the situation Walt inherited, it was the right move to trade him. I'd rather have the 3 players we got for Dunn than the 2 draft picks as well (assuming the Reds did offer him arb, knowing he'd decline).
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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    I can see any grades from B-F, I really can. I just don't get the idea that two of you (so far) think he's done an Amazing job.

    Really?
    6 now.

    Methinks 6 people either are mocking your poll, or clearly didn't understand the questions.

    Only 2 answers I can think of...

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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    6 now.

    Methinks 6 people either are mocking your poll, or clearly didn't understand the questions.

    Only 2 answers I can think of...
    There's only one explanation:

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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    6 now.

    Methinks 6 people either are mocking your poll, or clearly didn't understand the questions.

    Only 2 answers I can think of...
    I voted A, and I'm certainly A. not mocking the poll, and B. smart enough to understand the question. I stated my reasons earlier but will give a brief version here. To me, the overwhelming issue of this offseason--let's call it a matter qualitatively different from the other possible moves--was for Walt not to get caught up in the illusory idea that we have some chance to compete in 2009 and to make a move or moves that would compromise our much greater ability to compete in 2010. He's done just that. And he also drafted Alonso.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    I voted A, and I'm certainly A. not mocking the poll, and B. smart enough to understand the question. I stated my reasons earlier but will give a brief version here. To me, the overwhelming issue of this offseason--let's call it a matter qualitatively different from the other possible moves--was for Walt not to get caught up in the illusory idea that we have some chance to compete in 2009 and to make a move or moves that would compromise our much greater ability to compete in 2010. He's done just that. And he also drafted Alonso.
    I agree with that part of what Walt's done to some extent. But there was and to some extent still is enough out there for us to actually compete without hurting the future. Would we make the playoffs? Don't know that but there is definitely enough available to truly be a potential playoff team as much or more than beyond '09. But even if he acquires that big bat now the Taveras signing has hurt the potential we had to make this a real competitive team next season (all miracles withstanding).

    Here's the real issue though Bob Castellini has already risen the expectations but stating again and again that he wants to win now & has even fired a GM to drive his point home and for that reason Walt has failed him and us all. The only reason I'm not harder on Walt is because I'm hoping he is just blowing smoke in order to drive down prices of guys who can actually make a difference and that I'm not so sure that Bob isn't just blowing smoke.

    The only good news is that if Taveras is in CF and Hairston is in LF to start the season then those 2 and Dusty are that much closer to unemployment (depending on Taveras' dollars). Walt's not necc. a bum IMO but I have to wonder what his true intentions are. At any rate however an A grade is completely out of the question.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    I thought somehow it was an opinion poll, and that views could be proposed and defended withouth some being ruled "completely out of the question." Sorry to have an opinion different than someone else's.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    I thought somehow it was an opinion poll, and that views could be proposed and defended withouth some being ruled "completely out of the question." Sorry to have an opinion different than someone else's.
    Your opinion is allowed. Just as long as it lines up with everyone else's.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    I can see an A rating much sooner than an F.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    I thought somehow it was an opinion poll, and that views could be proposed and defended withouth some being ruled "completely out of the question." Sorry to have an opinion different than someone else's.
    Maybe we have a different opinion of what an A or an F vote means. To me when you vote A it says he has done as good a job as possible and that borders more on a statement of fact than opinion. I don't really have a problem with your opinion just your vote. I just can't see how anyone could vote for A or F at this point, because he could have done better (acquired Holliday) or he could have done worse (traded away Bruce & Cueto to get him).

    I certainly didn't mean to bury your opinion. In fact when I read your initial post I felt you had done a good job of bringing up some valid points.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    I can see an A rating much sooner than an F.
    He's certainly closer to an A than a F, I'll give you that.

    I'm still waiting to see the complete direction Walt's pushing this team, however.

    That's why in the short-term, I voted C.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    I voted A, and I'm certainly A. not mocking the poll, and B. smart enough to understand the question. I stated my reasons earlier but will give a brief version here. To me, the overwhelming issue of this offseason--let's call it a matter qualitatively different from the other possible moves--was for Walt not to get caught up in the illusory idea that we have some chance to compete in 2009 and to make a move or moves that would compromise our much greater ability to compete in 2010. He's done just that. And he also drafted Alonso.
    I could understand a B, but an A is just unfathomable to me.

    But I do sincerely appreciate that you defended your position.

    I guess when I thought A, that equated to he had completely removed all of DanO's and most of Wayne's fingerprints from this team.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    So far, after 102 votes, he's got a 1.87 GPA on the 4 point scale.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but in a three week period in April-May of 2004, he acquired Tony Womack, Brian Hunter, and Roger Cedeno in seperate deals. Eeee-gads!
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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball View Post
    I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but in a three week period in April-May of 2004, he acquired Tony Womack, Brian Hunter, and Roger Cedeno in seperate deals. Eeee-gads!
    You neglect to mention that Brian L. Hunter (who Walt signed on 3/29/04) never actually made an appearance for the Cardinals, and was released two months later on 5/29/04 after putting up a line of .204/.271/.204/.475 with no HR's, 6 RBI's, and 1 SB in 3 attempts at Memphis.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty Poll Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    You neglect to mention that Brian L. Hunter (who Walt signed on 3/29/04) never actually made an appearance for the Cardinals, and was released two months later ...
    Actually, I believe Hunter was acquired via trade for Kerry Robinson. Hunter never played for the Cards but Jocketty still went out and brought the guy on board. I imagine LaRussa had more to do with Hunter not making the team than did Jock.
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