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    Pete Carroll

    Anyone else disturbed by the way Pete Carroll handled the Mark Sanchez situation? It's one thing to disagree with the kid, but to throw a temper tantrum and not even support him at his press conference is a disgrace. The kid was there 4 years, earned a degree, what more could you ask for? He's likely to be a top 10 pick, maybe the top overall depending on how he does at the combine compared to Stafford.

    Carroll is a very successful coach. Too bad he can't be more of a class act when things don't go his way.

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    Re: Pete Carroll

    He's a big crybaby. WAHHHH.
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    Re: Pete Carroll

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    He's a big crybaby. WAHHHH.
    Could you imagine Tressel doing that to Beanie? Or Meyer doing that to Tebow? Or Stoops to Bradford? It's just absurd. It REALLY makes him and that program look bad. Of course it's not going to influence the bottom line, which is W's, but I lost some respect for him over the situation.

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    It may hurt recruiting, as the national media will take this and run with it, as will rival coaches. (I can imagine Nueheisel showin Carroll's comments via YouTube to the next West Coast QB of the future.)

    But, really, do recruits go to USC for Carroll or for the girls, beaches, and lifestyle? It might be the best of all worlds, collegiately.
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    I don't see where Pete Carroll did anything wrong. But since it's Pete Carroll we'll never hear the end of it. In the past Pete Carroll has urged players to leave early if he thinks they are ready. If he doesn't think they're ready then he lets them know. That's what any good coach does. Very few players have gone against Carroll's advice. The last player I remember to do so was Mike Williams and look how he turned out. BTW, I agree with Carroll's assessment. I don't think Sanchez is quite ready for the NFL yet.

    But, it's Pete Carroll so we'll just make a big deal out of nothing.

    I'll take a crybaby over the cheaters in the SEC.
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    Re: Pete Carroll

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I don't see where Pete Carroll did anything wrong. But since it's Pete Carroll we'll never hear the end of it. In the past Pete Carroll has urged players to leave early if he thinks they are ready. If he doesn't think they're ready then he lets them know. That's what any good coach does. Very few players have gone against Carroll's advice. The last player I remember to do so was Mike Williams and look how he turned out. BTW, I agree with Carroll's assessment. I don't think Sanchez is quite ready for the NFL yet.

    But, it's Pete Carroll so we'll just make a big deal out of nothing.

    I'll take a crybaby over the cheaters in the SEC.
    Well, he may not be ready, but he's arguably more ready than any other QB coming out. He's been in school 4 years, will graduate with a communications degree, and could very well be the #1 pick in the draft, so I think it's the right move. I can understand Carroll being upset with him ignoring his device, but I think he still should have handled it better at the press conference.

    And yeah, stupid SEC cheaters

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    I'm not a scout, but I thought Sanchez threw a nice ball during the Rose Bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I'm not a scout, but I thought Sanchez threw a nice ball during the Rose Bowl.
    That was probably the best game of his career. Overall, he had a great season but he also had a couple down games mixed in. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll turn into a very good pro QB but I also think another year of college wouldn't have hurt him. I think he was pretty much set on returning to school until Bradford decided to stay. Instead of him being the 2/3rd best QB in the draft, that moves him up to one or two.

    Stafford is another guy who I thought could have used another year of school to work on some things.
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    Re: Pete Carroll

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I don't see where Pete Carroll did anything wrong. But since it's Pete Carroll we'll never hear the end of it. In the past Pete Carroll has urged players to leave early if he thinks they are ready. If he doesn't think they're ready then he lets them know. That's what any good coach does. Very few players have gone against Carroll's advice. The last player I remember to do so was Mike Williams and look how he turned out. BTW, I agree with Carroll's assessment. I don't think Sanchez is quite ready for the NFL yet.

    But, it's Pete Carroll so we'll just make a big deal out of nothing.

    I'll take a crybaby over the cheaters in the SEC.
    If Sam Bradford comes out, Mark Sanchez stays, and rightly so.

    FWIW, outside of Kentucky, USC would probably be my second collegiate team in college football. I've always enjoyed watching them play.

    To be fair though, Mike Williams probably isn't the best example given he sat out a year fighting the NFL trying to get drafted.

    I don't think Sanchez is quite ready right now, and a full year with a clipboard would likely be the best option depending on who drafts him. I think he is better served to come out this year than wait until next when he is going up against Sam Bradford and Tim Tebow, among others.

    Right now he has the chance to chase Matt Stafford for the first overall pick and possibly be a top ten pick. Next season, who knows what might happen.
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    Re: Pete Carroll

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I don't see where Pete Carroll did anything wrong. But since it's Pete Carroll we'll never hear the end of it. In the past Pete Carroll has urged players to leave early if he thinks they are ready. If he doesn't think they're ready then he lets them know. That's what any good coach does. Very few players have gone against Carroll's advice. The last player I remember to do so was Mike Williams and look how he turned out. BTW, I agree with Carroll's assessment. I don't think Sanchez is quite ready for the NFL yet.

    But, it's Pete Carroll so we'll just make a big deal out of nothing.

    I'll take a crybaby over the cheaters in the SEC.
    Victim complex. There's not exactly a long line of people waiting for Pete Carroll to step out of line, but that's exactly what he did.

    And prepared or not, it would have been foolish for Sanchez to go back next year and have to compete against the likes of Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, and Tim Tebow for draft position.
    The situation is a lot like Eric Gordon's last spring at IU, yeah he would possibly be a better player, but how much higher would he have been drafted if he stayed.

    The player's first job out of college is to get drafted as high as possible. The second job is to perform as well as possible for the team that drafts him. The second job doesn't come before the first job.
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    With Tebow and Bradford staying in college it was probably a smart move to go pro this year. Will help him in the draft IMO.
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    Re: Pete Carroll

    I think he "wasn't ready" because he was the best option for USC at QB, but thats just me.

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    Re: Pete Carroll

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSelig View Post
    I think he "wasn't ready" because he was the best option for USC at QB, but thats just me.
    Nah. USC has two good QBs behind him in Aaron Corp and Mitch Mustain, plus Matt Barkley who Scout has as the #1 QB in the country. It wasn't about that. I think Carroll saw some inconsistency in the middle of the season figured another year of school would help him.
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    The kid only has one of these and it's less than kind to sit there, pout during the announcement, then tell reporters how you disagreed with the kid's decision.

    I'm okay with Carroll disagreeing, but I think he should have waited until after Sanchez's day to say something.

    This does nothing to help USC or Carroll and only does damage. How little damage depends on media and other coaches, including those that cheat in the SEC. (And the Big 10, and the Pac 10, and the ACC, and the Big East, and the Big XII, and the... you get the picture.)
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    I know you're a big USC fan, OBM, and I wasn't trying to insult your school, I just think that even if a coach disagrees with a player's decision to go pro, he should at least publicly give that player as much support as possible to help his draft stock as much as anything else.

    I mean, Sanchez gave Carroll and USC 4 years of hard work and dedication in the classroom and on the practice field. Carroll should have done the same in turn for Sanchez on his "big day."
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