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  1. 01-22-2009, 10:23 AM #16
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    The Cincinnati Reds: Poised to be one of the worst offenses in the National League.

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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by LawFive View Post
    Fay has a little more in his blog:

    http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...ategory=blog07

    Basically says they are now factoring in the economy, and are more focused on the future. Castellini backtracks when asked aboout how soon they will be competitive - says the media took "win now" out of his context.

    My comeback is this: if they had subbed Roenicke for Weathers, save 4 mil. Use Dickerson instead of Tavares, save 2 mil. That's 6 of the 8 or so mil an Abreau would have cost, and they're instantly in the mix.
    The Reds would spend their payroll flex on crappy and/or unneeded players??? Perish the thought!
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by LawFive View Post
    Fay has a little more in his blog:
    Castellini backtracks when asked aboout how soon they will be competitive - says the media took "win now" out of his context.
    Ugh. I guess it depends on your definition of "win" and "now".
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by LawFive View Post
    Castellini backtracks when asked aboout how soon they will be competitive - says the media took "win now" out of his context.
    Maybe he was actually saying "winnow" and the media added a space in the middle where one shouldn't have been.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life View Post
    The Cincinnati Reds: Poised to be one of the worst offenses in the National League.

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    It's sort of ingenuous in a way... build a crappy enough ballclub so that when your attendance numbers stink you can just blame it on the economy; the same excuse you used to avoid building a competitive ballclub in the first place!
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Maybe he was actually saying "winnow" and the media added a space in the middle where one shouldn't have been.
    You might have something there. IIRC, Wayne-O got winnowed right before he said that.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    You might have something there. IIRC, Wayne-O got winnowed right before he said that.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    It's sort of ingenuous in a way... build a crappy enough ballclub so that when your attendance numbers stink you can just blame it on the economy; the same excuse you used to avoid building a competitive ballclub in the first place!
    Blaming the economy is a cop out. Yes, it's not good but like LawFive pointed how some creativity in the salaries could have gotten someone like Abreu. Unless Votto and/or Bruce break out and have 35 HR and 120 RBI seasons this team isn't going to score at all. And if Volquez,Arroyo and Cueto are subpar from last season then we are looking at, easily, 100 losses.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    sorry for being optomistic on previous posts this off-season, what a load
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by LawFive View Post
    Castellini backtracks when asked aboout how soon they will be competitive - says the media took "win now" out of his context.
    Which is why he fired O'Brien, and Narron, and Krivsky .

    It's the media's fault, eh?

    I've got to tell you, I have been a Castellini fan and somewhat of an apologist for him all along, but this is the most disappointing thing I have heard him say yet.

    Blaming the media?? Lame-O
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    Which is why he fired O'Brien, and Narron, and Krivsky .

    It's the media's fault, eh?

    I've got to tell you, I have been a Castellini fan and somewhat of an apologist for him all along, but this is the most disappointing thing I have heard him say yet.

    Blaming the media?? Lame-O
    How do you take "WIN NOW" out of context? :
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by LawFive View Post
    Fay has a little more in his blog:

    http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...ategory=blog07

    Basically says they are now factoring in the economy, and are more focused on the future. Castellini backtracks when asked aboout how soon they will be competitive - says the media took "win now" out of his context.

    My comeback is this: if they had subbed Roenicke for Weathers, save 4 mil. Use Dickerson instead of Tavares, save 2 mil. That's 6 of the 8 or so mil an Abreau would have cost, and they're instantly in the mix.
    John Fay, making a ton of sense. You go on with your bad self, John.

    ETA: And, when even John Fay figures it out, well...
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Dusty Baker said there could be a platoon in left with Gomes, Dickerson and Hopper/Hairston. He also said Willy Taveras is his centerfielder and leadoff batter.

    Glad Dusty ended the suspense for us.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by NJReds View Post
    Ugh. I guess it depends on your definition of "win" and "now".
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Glad Dusty ended the suspense for us.
    He probably couldn't wait to make it official.

    The 4 way platoon in LF may confuse him, though....
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