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    Reds are at payroll budget

    Per the Enquirer and Jocketty, the Reds are at payroll budget... bummer.

    http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...cincinnati.com

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    Re: Reds are at payroll budget

    Yeah that is a bummer. really could've used another good stick in the lineup.

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    Re: Reds are at payroll budget

    This is a joke! They get rid of big contracts and bring in... Willy Taveras! This team may be the worst since 2001.

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    Re: Reds are at payroll budget

    Haha amen to that. Hopefully not the worst since 2001 though!

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    Re: Reds are at payroll budget

    Reds Reach Payroll Limit By Tim Dierkes [January 22 at 9:03am CST]

    C. Trent Rosecrans spoke to Reds brass Bob Castellini, Walt Jocketty, and Dusty Baker today. All three told him the team has reached its payroll budget.

    The Reds' 2009 additions/re-signings include Ramon Hernandez ($6MM), David Weathers ($4.6MM or $3MM), Willy Taveras ($2.25MM), Jerry Hairston Jr. ($2MM), Mike Lincoln ($1.5MM), Arthur Rhodes ($2MM), and Jonny Gomes (minor league deal). Edwin Encarnacion is in line for a raise of at least $2MM. Many of the team's signed veterans have significant raises for '09.

    On the flip side, the Reds will not have to pay Adam Dunn, Ken Griffey Jr., Dave Ross, Ryan Freel, Javier Valentin, Jeremy Affeldt, and Josh Fogg.
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    Thursday, January 22, 2009, 09:42 AM EST [General]

    Well, not really...

    Anway, a little Thursday schedule. I was just downtown at GABP as the Reds caravan was taking off -- I'll have stuff from Bob Castellini, Walt Jocketty and Dusty Baker here in a little bit. And then we'll have stories on Brandon Phillips and Yonder Alonso here in the next couple of days.

    Anyway, here's the quick stuff I have from Bob, Walt and Dusty.

    All three mentioned that the team is now at its budget for payroll, so don't expect any big singings.

    I asked Jocketty that with the price tag coming down, would there be any interest in bringing back Adam Dunn: "I don't think so," Jocketty said.

    Jocketty said Dr. Tim Kremcheck will examine Alex Gonzalez in Miami this weekend, but reports are good. Castellini didn't sound as hopeful in regards to Gonzalez.

    Dusty Baker said there could be a platoon in left with Gomes, Dickerson and Hopper/Hairston. He also said Willy Taveras is his centerfielder and leadoff batter.

    I'll have more later (including TOL's little brother -- Afternoon Delight)
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    This is not good news for 757690 and his signature...

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    I think that in a year or two, one of these guys - Frazier, Dorn, Valaika, Cumberland, Stubbs - will be ready to replace Dunn. They won't hit as many home runs as Dunn, but they should have similar OPS. - 757690, July 22, 2008

    Alonso will be playing 1B for the REDS and batting 4th one year from today. - Kingspoint, July 9, 2009

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    Re: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by BLEEDS View Post
    This is not good news for 757690 and his signature...

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    I still would double the bet if I could.

    Anyway, I think you are right when you said that owner lied, but I am glad that he did. I would rather have the Reds focused on the future than wasting resources on an older big bat. This allows the team flexiblity to make a move midseason if they are in contention.

    I am glad that Cast has seen the light and understands that with the Reds young core, a long term, build from within plan is best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I still would double the bet if I could.
    I would gladly double the bet. What else would you like to wager?
    This team, will now struggle to score 700 runs, forget 750...

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Anyway, I think you are right when you said that owner lied, but I am glad that he did. I would rather have the Reds focused on the future than wasting resources on an older big bat. This allows the team flexiblity to make a move midseason if they are in contention.
    WOW, that is a HOOT!!! Seriously, Comedy Gold!! I'm laughing because otherwise I'd cry at how absurd that is...
    They'll be out of it by Memorial Day...

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I am glad that Cast has seen the light and understands that with the Reds young core, a long term, build from within plan is best.
    Then they might as well trade everyone making over $5M on this roster.

    What's the use of having 3 $12M pitchers with this offense/defense? Harang, Arroyo, Cordero are wastes of money at this point.

    Currently on Offense, CF, LF, and SS are a joke. I know Drew Stubbs will be OPS-ing .900 in 2010 according to you, but here in reality...

    Sad Sad state of affairs...

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    I think that in a year or two, one of these guys - Frazier, Dorn, Valaika, Cumberland, Stubbs - will be ready to replace Dunn. They won't hit as many home runs as Dunn, but they should have similar OPS. - 757690, July 22, 2008

    Alonso will be playing 1B for the REDS and batting 4th one year from today. - Kingspoint, July 9, 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLEEDS View Post
    I would gladly double the bet. What else would you like to wager?
    This team, will now struggle to score 700 runs, forget 750...

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    Just so you know the bet you have between 757690 is that the Reds will score more runs in 2009 than they did in 2008. They scored 704 runs in 2008, not 750. Just making sure you know that before you double your bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    Just so you know the bet you have between 757690 is that the Reds will score more runs in 2009 than they did in 2008. They scored 704 runs in 2008, not 750. Just making sure you know that before you double your bet.
    Oh I know the wager, don't worry, thanks for your concern.

    Believe it or not, this is a bet I'd love to lose - and am more concerned that we score 750+ as a team, because that is what we would need to do in order to even attempt to close the runs, and hence, wins gap that we need to even sniff any notion of contention this year.

    Of course, that is still a dream; anything short of signing Manny Ramirez pretty much guarantees we won't approach that 750 number. Actually, we may not have breached 700 with him once Wily Tavares was cemented in for 600 AB's in the leadoff spot.

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    I think that in a year or two, one of these guys - Frazier, Dorn, Valaika, Cumberland, Stubbs - will be ready to replace Dunn. They won't hit as many home runs as Dunn, but they should have similar OPS. - 757690, July 22, 2008

    Alonso will be playing 1B for the REDS and batting 4th one year from today. - Kingspoint, July 9, 2009

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    Re: Reds are at payroll budget

    This is not pleasant news, but we as fans have to remember that the Reds are a business. Just like any business, they are feeling the pinch. Unfortunate, but really no different than the budget cuts being made by my employer for next year.

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    Re: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Herd Fan View Post
    This is not pleasant news, but we as fans have to remember that the Reds are a business. Just like any business, they are feeling the pinch. Unfortunate, but really no different than the budget cuts being made by my employer for next year.
    I agree, but the Reds have to realize its a business, and businesses have to put out a product consumers want/need, esp in hard times, if they want said consumers to still purchase and keep business in, well, business.

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    Re: Reds are at payroll budget

    By the way, that puts the 25 man roster - what is normally considered "The Payroll" - at under $70M - not even at $69M by all calculations, even with the player asking prices on the Arbitration numbers from EE and Weathers.

    I LOVE being lied to, repeatedly, by ownership.

    "We are commited to winning"
    "Our payroll will be in the mid $80s(millions)"
    "a RH power LF-er is our #1 priority this off-season"

    Good thing we have a $12M closer!

    Good Lord.

    I might have to seriously consider boycotting this team.

    Right now the Reds are the car wreck on the side of the road that you just can't look away, but even rolling at 1 MPH, eventually you won't be able to see it anymore...

    Is that the Jaws of Life being operated by DUHsty Baker?!!? That's like throwing gasoline on a fire...

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    I think that in a year or two, one of these guys - Frazier, Dorn, Valaika, Cumberland, Stubbs - will be ready to replace Dunn. They won't hit as many home runs as Dunn, but they should have similar OPS. - 757690, July 22, 2008

    Alonso will be playing 1B for the REDS and batting 4th one year from today. - Kingspoint, July 9, 2009

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    Re: Reds are at payroll budget

    Quote Originally Posted by BLEEDS View Post
    ... Good thing we have a $12M closer! ...
    ... for three more years! Maybe it's not up there with Milton but that's the worst contract we have and could be one of the worst that they've made.
    "Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLEEDS View Post
    By the way, that puts the 25 man roster - what is normally considered "The Payroll" - at under $70M - not even at $69M by all calculations, even with the player asking prices on the Arbitration numbers from EE and Weathers.

    I LOVE being lied to, repeatedly, by ownership.

    "We are commited to winning"
    "Our payroll will be in the mid $80s(millions)"
    "a RH power LF-er is our #1 priority this off-season"

    Good thing we have a $12M closer!

    Good Lord.

    I might have to seriously consider boycotting this team.

    Right now the Reds are the car wreck on the side of the road that you just can't look away, but even rolling at 1 MPH, eventually you won't be able to see it anymore...

    Is that the Jaws of Life being operated by DUHsty Baker?!!? That's like throwing gasoline on a fire...

    PEACE

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    Thankfully, noone else in that division outside of the Cubs looks to be very competitive this season. All have either suffered too many losses in the free agent market, or have done absolutely nothing this offseason. I think the Reds can leapfrog several teams this year.


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