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    Reds all-time roster

    I started to do this last night and then put it off to today. John Erardi and I must have been thinking alike because he just made a similar post over on Fay's blog.

    Here's mine:

    Lineup:

    2B Joe Morgan
    SS Barry Larkin
    CF Eric Davis
    RF Frank Robinson
    C Johnny Bench
    LF Adam Dunn
    3B Pete Rose
    1B Tony Perez

    Bench:

    1B Ted Kluszewski
    SS Davey Concepcion
    C Ernie Lombardi
    OF Edd Roush
    OF George Foster

    Rotation:

    Bucky Walters
    Eppa Rixey
    Jose Rijo
    Paul Derringer
    Jim Maloney

    Bullpen:

    RHP Scott Sullivan
    LHP John Franco
    LHP Norm Charlton
    RHP Rob Dibble
    RHP Clay Carroll
    RHP Joe Beggs
    RHP Scott Williamson

    Manager:

    Sparky Anderson
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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    When I used to play Microleague Baseball, I had a pretty good all time Reds team based on career seasons. I'll have to dig that up.
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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    Here is Erardi's:

    Rose, rf

    Morgan, 2b

    FRrobinson, lf

    Klu, 1b

    Bench, c

    Eric Davis, cf

    Larkin, ss

    Concepcion, 3b

    RHP, Jim Maloney

    LHP, Don Gullet

    Pinchhitters

    Tony Perez

    George Foster

    Edd Roush (also an extra outfielder and pinchrunner)

    Frank McCormick

    Ernie Lombardi (also backup catcher)

    Heinie Groh (Bring your own bottle bat, Heinie

    Utility Infielder

    Roy McMillan

    Extra Outfielder

    Vada Pinson*

    Swing starter

    Jose Rijo**

    Closer

    Johnny Franco***

    Setup men

    Nasty Boy Rob Dibble

    Nasty Boy Norm Charlton****

    Rest of staff:

    Bucky Walters

    Paul Derringer

    Mario Soto

    Eppa Jeptha Rixey

    Manager:

    Sparky Anderson

    Coaches:

    Bill McKechnie

    Fred Hutchinson

    Birdie Tebbetts

    Pat Duncan

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    Owner: Louis Nippert

    (Not so limited) partner: August “Garry” Herrmann

    Comptroller (unlimited payroll): Marge Schott

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    Organist: Ronnie Paul

    Historian, publicist: Lee Allen

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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    Lineup

    LF Pete Rose
    SS Barry Larkin
    2B Joe Morgan
    RF Frank Robinson
    C Johnny Bench
    1B Tony Perez
    CF Edd Roush
    3B Heinie Groh


    Rotation

    SP Bucky Walters
    SP Paul Derringer
    SP Eppa Rixey
    SP Dolf Luque


    Bench

    C Ernie Lombardi
    1B Ted Kluszewski
    IF Davey Concepcion
    IF Bid McPhee
    OF Vada Pinson
    OF George Foster


    Bullpen

    SP Noodles Hahn
    SP Jim Maloney
    SP Jose Rijo
    SP Pete Donohue
    SP Johnny Vander Meer
    SP Ewell Blackwell
    CL Clay Carroll
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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    I'm going to go ahead and throw a penalty flag- Erardi can't put Concepcion at 3B. He only played 120 games there in his entire career. I read his reasoning, but I disagree.

    Groh at 3B
    Rose at the Freel/Hairston spot of "first man off the bench, filling in anywhere."
    Last edited by Always Red; 02-06-2009 at 03:15 PM.

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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    I'd love to see how many runs some of these lineups produce with BBM's lineup tool.

    I bet it's scary!
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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    2nd String Roster

    McCormick - 1st
    Critz - 2nd
    Davey - SS
    Hatton - 3b
    Lombardi - C
    Dunn - LF
    Pinson - CF
    Griffey Senior - RF

    Pitching - O'Toole, Bob Ewing, Vander Meer, Red Lucas, Noodles Hahn

    BP - Abernathy, Bronson, Carrol, Borbon, Shaw

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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    I've had a request to use "best single seasons" so here goes:

    Lineup

    LF Pete Rose, 1969
    SS Barry Larkin, 1995
    2B Joe Morgan, 1975
    RF Frank Robinson, 1962
    C Johnny Bench, 1972
    1B Ted Kluszewski, 1954
    CF Cy Seymour, 1905
    3B Heinie Groh, 1917


    Rotation

    SP Bucky Walters, 1939
    SP Dolf Luque, 1923
    SP Ewell Blackwell, 1947
    SP Noodles Hahn, 1902


    Bench

    C Ernie Lombardi, 1938
    IF Tony Perez, 1970
    IF Bid McPhee, 1892
    OF Edd Roush, 1919
    OF Eric Davis, 1987
    OF George Foster, 1977


    Bullpen
    SP Paul Derringer, 1939
    SP Jim Maloney, 1965
    SP Jose Rijo, 1993
    RP Clay Carroll, 1970
    RP Rob Dibble, 1990
    RP John Franco, 1988
    RP Danny Graves, 2000
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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    RP Danny Graves, 2000
    I find it interesting that in his career season he had a K/BB of 1.26...
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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    I find it interesting that in his career season he had a K/BB of 1.26...
    Graves had an undoubtedly lucky year with a very low BABIP, though in the course of historically evaluating players I tend to set the predictive metrics like DIPS aside. They produced what they produced, even if they got a bit lucky, and I give them credit for it. I'll only pull out the predictive stuff when I want to know the most likely performance moving forward.

    As for Graves, he was a dominant ground ball pitcher in his peak. He was the type of pitcher who'd enter the 9th in a save situation, aggravate me by walking a guy, then promptly have the following hitter immediately ground into a DP and slamming the door shut on any type of rally.
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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    I find it interesting that in his career season he had a K/BB of 1.26...
    Not me- his best pitch was always a ball, if you had enough discipline to take it. When Graves was on, he was pretty good.

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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    Not me- his best pitch was always a ball, if you had enough discipline to take it. When Graves was on, he was pretty good.
    Yup, absolutely wonderful pitcher during his peak.

    Graves is another one of those guys who may not get the credit he deserves due to the way he ended his tenure in Cincinnati. Most fans, including myself, couldn't really stand him during his last few years here.

    But that stuff is well in the past now ... when I think of Danny Graves, I like to think about that stretch from 1998-2002 where he was absolute filth on the mound and a pleasure to watch ... even if he did walk a few more guys than I liked.
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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    Yup, absolutely wonderful pitcher during his peak.

    Graves is another one of those guys who may not get the credit he deserves due to the way he ended his tenure in Cincinnati. Most fans, including myself, couldn't really stand him during his last few years here.

    But that stuff is well in the past now ... when I think of Danny Graves, I like to think about that stretch from 1998-2002 where he was absolute filth on the mound and a pleasure to watch ... even if he did walk a few more guys than I liked.
    I always thought this was quite ironic. Apparently Graves had a box for his wife along with a number of tickets for every game she was in town for. When she wasn't in town he gave the tickets to local youth charities. The year when he was let go and had a ton of bad press around him he continued to give the rest of the tickets to the youth charities.

    He was done in by the yo yoing the Reds did to him. The going from reliever, to starter, and then back to reliever ruined Graves. What could have been a great 1-2 bullpen punch with Graves and Williamson came to a very premature end.

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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    Cyclone, I would take Larkin's 1996 season over his 1995 season. I know he won the MVP in '95, but he was better in '96.

    1995: .319/.394/.492 - .886 OPS, OPS+ of 133, 15 HR, 51 stolen bases, gold glove winner.

    1996: .298/.410/.567 - .977 OPS, OPS+ of 154, 33 HR, 36 stolen bases, gold glove, and became the first 30/30 shortstop in baseball history.

    You can't go wrong with either one but if I were forced to choose, I'd take his 1996 season. Sorry for being picky.
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    Re: Reds all-time roster

    Cyclone

    1938 Johnny Vandermeer. It may have not been his best season but back to back no hitters is one heck of a season.

    I also agree with OBM Larkin was better in 96 than 95. Heck 96 may go down as one of the best seasons in the history of SS.


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