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    Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Baker: Phillips will hit clean up
    Posted by JohnFay at 2/19/2009 10:19 AM EST on Cincinnati.com

    Dusty Baker said that Brandon Phillips will hit fourth -- at least at the start of the year.

    “The way the lineup is right now, yeah,” Baker said.

    Phillips' numbers were down last year from 2007. He hit .288 with 30 home runs and 94 RBI in '07. Last year, he hit .261 with 21 homers and 78.

    “Brandon will have a good year," Baker said. "You struggle sometimes a little bit in third or fourth year. Brandon will readjust. Sometimes they wouldn’t throw Brandon a lot of strikes. Sometimes when you’re in the middle of it, you can’t see it. When you’re smart like Brandon, you take some time away and you step back and see things.”

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    No surprise there.

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Baker: Phillips will hit clean up
    Posted by JohnFay at 2/19/2009 10:19 AM EST on Cincinnati.com

    Dusty Baker said that Brandon Phillips will hit fourth -- at least at the start of the year.

    “The way the lineup is right now, yeah,” Baker said.

    Phillips' numbers were down last year from 2007. He hit .288 with 30 home runs and 94 RBI in '07. Last year, he hit .261 with 21 homers and 78.

    “Brandon will have a good year," Baker said. "You struggle sometimes a little bit in third or fourth year. Brandon will readjust. Sometimes they wouldn’t throw Brandon a lot of strikes. Sometimes when you’re in the middle of it, you can’t see it. When you’re smart like Brandon, you take some time away and you step back and see things.”

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    Correct, Dusty. They weren't throwing him strikes. Because he was SWINGING AT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Let the winning continue!

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    This ticks me off. Phillips hitting cleanup vs LHP? Fine. Against RHP? Absolutely not. This offense is already going to have some problems scoring runs and it doesn't help matters that our manager can't fill out a decent lineup. Phillips need to either hit second where he'll maybe stop swinging for the fences, or sixth. Brandon Phillips is not a cleanup hitter and it's a shame Dusty Baker doesn't realize this.
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Baker is a real spin doctor; so much of what comes out of his mouth is gobbledygook. I hope the Reds win some so we can focus on something different.

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Brandon is aggressive. Cleanup hitters should be aggressive.

    Well, we have our most likely 1-4 for OD now.

    Taveras
    Hairston
    Votto
    Phillips
    Last edited by BRM; 02-19-2009 at 11:06 AM.

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Baker: Phillips will hit clean up
    Posted by JohnFay at 2/19/2009 10:19 AM EST on Cincinnati.com

    Dusty Baker said that Brandon Phillips will hit fourth -- at least at the start of the year.


    “Brandon will have a good year," Baker said. "You struggle sometimes a little bit in third or fourth year. Brandon will readjust. Sometimes they wouldn’t throw Brandon a lot of strikes. Sometimes when you’re in the middle of it, you can’t see it. When you’re smart like Brandon, you take some time away and you step back and see things.”

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    Brandon Phillips VS Right Handed Pitching
    2008 - AVG OBP SLG OPS - .247 .293 .383 .676 AB - 397
    2007 - AVG OBP SLG OPS - .262 .310 .428 .738 AB - 442
    2006 - AVG OBP SLG OPS - .268 .315 .429 .744 AB - 399

    Brandon Phillips VS Left Handed Pitching
    2008 - AVG OBP SLG OPS - .296 .358 .586 .944 AB - 162
    2007 - AVG OBP SLG OPS - .341 .378 .606 .984 AB - 208
    2006 - AVG OBP SLG OPS - .299 .351 .423 .774 AB - 137

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Brandon is aggressive. Cleanup hitters should be aggressive.

    Well, we have our most likely 1-4 for OD now.

    Taveras
    Hairston
    Votto
    Phillips
    Looks like Bruce will be leading off the 2nd a whole lot.

    Pray for good pitching!

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Well, we have our most likely 1-4 for OD now.

    Taveras
    Hairston
    Votto
    Phillips
    you're probably right there with the 1-3, which is exactly why Bruce will be hitting 5th, gotta split those lefties!
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    I completely foresee Edwin taking on the clean up role shortly after the season starts. Baker doesnt want to pressure him or put him back in the swing for the fences mindset. But I can see him settling there soon enough.

    Would be great to move Brandon down to 2-hole. Still use his speed on the bases for Votto and Bruce.
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Brandon is aggressive. Cleanup hitters should be aggressive.

    Well, we have our most likely 1-4 for OD now.

    Taveras
    Hairston
    Votto
    Phillips
    Since you've got JHJ hitting secomd, I guess you're saying he will be playing SS instead of LF?

    If I had to bat Phillips 4th, I'd go ,,,

    CF Dickerson/Taveras
    3B Encarnacion
    1B Votto
    2B Phillips
    RF Bruce
    LF Jones (or) Ward/Gomes
    CA Hernandez
    SS Gonzalez (or) Hairston (or) Keppinger

    ... I'm not Dusty though and Taveras will be there everyday. I'm just hoping for Dickerson in LF

    If they wanted more speed at the top and Taveras plays everyday, I'd go...

    CF Taveras
    LF Dickerson
    3B Encarnacion
    1B Votto
    2B Phillips
    RF Bruce
    CA Hernandez
    SS Gonzalez (or) Hairston (or) Keppinger
    Last edited by corkedbat; 02-19-2009 at 11:34 AM.

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Awesome!! This upcoming season is getting better and more exciting by the day. I can't wait!!

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Since you've got JHJ hitting secomd, I guess you're saying he will be playing SS instead of LF?
    No, I have him in LF. The Reds will likely face a lefty on OD in Johan Santana. Hopefully Dusty has abandoned his "SS hits second" rule this year.

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Perhaps Gomes gets that start over Hairston?


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