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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    Since the new leadoff hitter is a righty, why do the lefties still have to hit 3rd and 5th? Couldn't they just as easily hit 2nd and 4th?
    not gonna happen, then the number 2 hitter has to pull the ball to hit behind the runner.
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    I'm pretty sure I remember a game against the Phills in 2007 where 7 out of 9 batters were left handed.

    I remember because we were in section 220 and you really have to pay attention for screamer foul balls off lefties and I was ready to duck nearly the entire game.

    How on earth did they survive with all those lefties not being split up?
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Not to mention all those strikeouts!!!

    AND WALKS!
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    AND WALKS!
    Base cloggers should be shot.
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    I'm pretty sure I remember a game against the Phills in 2007 where 7 out of 9 batters were left handed.

    I remember because we were in section 220 and you really have to pay attention for screamer foul balls off lefties and I was ready to duck nearly the entire game.

    How on earth did they survive with all those lefties not being split up?
    Just curious was that the Jon Lieber 1 hour shutout game(slight exageration)? No I see that was in 2006. I'm trying to find the game.
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    I'd hit him 7th against righties and he'd steal 40 for me. Me likey speedy guys in the 7 hole.
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    Base cloggers should be shot.
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    I know that BP will never be Ad when it comes to walks (or HRs for that matter), but if "hits it where it's pitched' and can get his OBP back into the .330 range he can help at cleanup (not as much as well as EdE though).

    My fear is though that hitting 4th stokes that "cleanup mentality" and he "goes Pokey" and starts swinging for the fences and pulling everything. This team cannot afford him swinging at everything within three feet of the strike zone again and OBPing .312 or less again.

    I love Brandon's infectuous grin and value his defense. I know it's especially valuable considering we don't have a cannon-armed young vaccuum at SS. I subscribe to the old idea that you deal talent a year before the bottom starts to drop out of it's value.

    Another year at the plate with last year's approach and the time to deal Phillips will have been this past offseason. If I'm Jocketty, the I have a list of the top 10-12 young SSs in double or triple A a and he would be dealt as soon as i gor a nibble on any of them. Then I would go with Valaika/Hairston/Keppinger/(or even Frazier) @ 2B.

    The meat of our batting order should be Votto - Encarnacion - Bruce

    The sad thing about Phillips is whether he tires to pull everything and and has an OBP or he uses the whole parka nd OBPs in the .330-.340 range, I think his HR numbers are around 24 (+/-3), I just think his overall production is better with the latter.
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Phillips' offensive game reminds me an awful lot of this guy:

    Code:
    Ag	BA	OBP	SLG *	OPS+
    24	.289	.329	.460	97
    25	.285	.319	.463	92
    26	.276	.335	.417	96
    27	.300	.341	.511	123
    28	.304	.333	.464	107
    29	.254	.315	.427	89
    30	.249	.319	.438	98
    31	.285	.334	.499	108
    32	.285	.335	.400	87
    I wonder if we'd feel comfortable batting him cleanup -- even when he was in his prime.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    I wish Phillips all the luck in the world, I really do. Seems to me though the Reds have been trying to force feed the fanbase into the idea of Brandon being the "Face Of The Franchise" since the end of the 2007 season.

    I'd hit him in the six hole against RHP.

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Phillips' offensive game reminds me an awful lot of this guy:

    Code:
    Ag	BA	OBP	SLG *	OPS+
    24	.289	.329	.460	97
    25	.285	.319	.463	92
    26	.276	.335	.417	96
    27	.300	.341	.511	123
    28	.304	.333	.464	107
    29	.254	.315	.427	89
    30	.249	.319	.438	98
    31	.285	.334	.499	108
    32	.285	.335	.400	87
    I wonder if we'd feel comfortable batting him cleanup -- even when he was in his prime.
    Heh, maybe we can find out this season!
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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Heh, maybe we can find out this season!
    Do you think Dusty would hit him cleanup against lefties too? :
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    I'm willing to give Phillips a chance and see what happens. Given the Reds' roster (no true lead-off or power hitter), the lineup will probably not be made out in a typical fashion, and it will probably change as guys get into a groove.

    Don't think of Phillips batting clean-up; think of him batting 4th. The Reds don't have a cleanup hitter as of right now, but one may appear once they begin play.

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    Re: Baker: Phillips will hit clean up

    Quote Originally Posted by durl View Post
    I'm willing to give Phillips a chance and see what happens. Given the Reds' roster (no true lead-off or power hitter), the lineup will probably not be made out in a typical fashion, and it will probably change as guys get into a groove.

    Don't think of Phillips batting clean-up; think of him batting 4th. The Reds don't have a cleanup hitter as of right now, but one may appear once they begin play.
    We may not want to think of Phillips as batting clean up but Phillips sure as hell is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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