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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Didn't feel like subtitling this one The NIT Thread?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    Didn't feel like subtitling this one The NIT Thread?"


    7 National Championships would've provided a better picture of Kentucky basketball.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    7 National Championships would've provided a better picture of Kentucky basketball.
    I meant I was guessing we could do 1000 posts on their nit run. But since you are feeling sensitive... Irony -- Billy saying he was married once and the honeymoon didn't last long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    I meant I was guessing we could do 1000 posts on their nit run. But since you are feeling sensitive... Irony -- Billy saying he was married once and the honeymoon didn't last long.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Battle of the Wildcats on Tuesday night! Kentucky-Davidson is the word on one of the matchups ESPN prefers for the NIT. Every game could be Gillispie's last from here on out, according to what I'm hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javy Pornstache View Post
    Battle of the Wildcats on Tuesday night! Kentucky-Davidson is the word on one of the matchups ESPN prefers for the NIT. Every game could be Gillispie's last from here on out, according to what I'm hearing.
    I really hope you are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Javy Pornstache View Post
    Battle of the Wildcats on Tuesday night! Kentucky-Davidson is the word on one of the matchups ESPN prefers for the NIT. Every game could be Gillispie's last from here on out, according to what I'm hearing.
    Do those saying that, suggest that a replacement is already (perhaps secretly) lined up, or that they'd let him go and then hope for the best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macro View Post
    Do those saying that, suggest that a replacement is already (perhaps secretly) lined up, or that they'd let him go and then hope for the best?
    I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it, but there's a lot of fire to all the smoke on Gillispie. Barnhart's got a lot of heat on him right now too. Regarding your question, Macro, I personally don't believe that a replacement is already decided and signed, sealed and delivered, but there are some who believe he is, that was the word going around the SEC Tournament. I do know that if Gillispie's gone, they won't be making another gamble, so it won't be Pelphrey or Horn or Ford or anyone like that that's been named (though I've heard Ford's stock has gone up in UK circles recently... he might get an interview but I'm not sure he'd be the guy)... if they have to throw a ton of cash Alabama football-style, they will. Barnhart can't afford to make a risky hire. He's got too much heat for not doing due diligence of Gillispie last time.



    If this comes to fruition, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Javy Pornstache View Post
    I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it, but there's a lot of fire to all the smoke on Gillispie. Barnhart's got a lot of heat on him right now too. Regarding your question, Macro, I personally don't believe that a replacement is already decided and signed, sealed and delivered, but there are some who believe he is, that was the word going around the SEC Tournament. I do know that if Gillispie's gone, they won't be making another gamble, so it won't be Pelphrey or Horn or Ford or anyone like that that's been named (though I've heard Ford's stock has gone up in UK circles recently... he might get an interview but I'm not sure he'd be the guy)... if they have to throw a ton of cash Alabama football-style, they will. Barnhart can't afford to make a risky hire. He's got too much heat for not doing due diligence of Gillispie last time.



    If this comes to fruition, of course.
    If Gillispie leaves, it will be on his own free will. I don't think Barnhardt could put his job security on the line to hire another coach.

    Here is an article from the Herald Leader that has some quotes of what the players think of Gillispie:

    TAMPA, Fla. When a reporter noted that turnovers and rebounding once again plagued Kentucky in its loss to Louisiana State on Friday, guard Michael Porter had a telling response.

    "You're telling me," he said.

    Yes, Kentucky had trouble holding on to the ball and retrieving missed shots all season. That was beyond obvious long before the Southeastern Conference Tournament.

    To his credit, Porter did not dodge personal responsibility as starting point guard.

    "I've definitely been a big part of that problem," he volunteered in UK's post-game locker room.

    That raised a pertinent question: Shouldn't the coach have ironed out these problems? Or did Billy Gillispie lack the tools to fix what ailed the Cats?

    With Gillispie's job security the topic of intense speculation, the players defended the coach.

    "Fans think that they can coach," big man Patrick Patterson said. "Come on down and try.

    "Coach knows what he's talking about. He knows the most about basketball. He knows what he's doing."


    Porter put the responsibility on the players, most of whom Gillispie inherited when Kentucky hired him in 2007 and charged him with replenishing the roster.

    "He was put in a hard situation," Porter said. "I think coach has done a great job, as good a job as he possibly could have done.

    "I think it's on us. It hasn't been his fault. He told us everything we need to do to win. It's been about us executing and playing as hard as we can."


    The necessary effort was not always there, Porter said. And the Cats had to win with maximum effort because the available talent was not sufficient. In popular parlance, to win "ugly" via grit and determination.

    As Gillispie said after the loss to LSU here, "one team looked like they had six of the top seven guys that were seniors or four-year guys, and one team looked like they didn't have any seniors that played."

    The former was LSU, the latter Kentucky. Effort was supposed to close that gap.

    "We know, if we played as hard as we did the last couple days, we'd be in a different situation," Porter said. "And I think that pretty much started around the Ole Miss game."

    Porter meant the game at Mississippi on Jan. 27. The Cats went to Oxford at 5-0 in the SEC, the league's only unbeaten team. They had beaten No. 24 Tennessee (UK's only victory over a ranked team this season) and Auburn (which only looks better with the passage of time).

    Then Ole Miss whipped Kentucky to start a downward spiral that included nine losses in the next 13 games.

    Not that Kentucky got steamrolled. The Cats lost to South Carolina on Devan Downey's buzzer-beater, to LSU on Tasmin Mitchell's jumper inside the final 10 seconds.

    "We lost some games we definitely shouldn't have lost," Porter said. "That always make it hard."

    When asked about the team leadership, Patterson said the Cats lacked that "one true leader" who can make a difference in close games or clutch situations.

    "We relied on someone else to step up rather than one person saying, 'I'll be the leader. Get behind me,' " Patterson said. "... We had Ramel (Bradley) do that last year. We could depend on Ramel whenever we needed a basket. When something went wrong, Ramel stepped up."

    Something went wrong last season when Patterson injured an ankle and missed the final four games.

    Gillispie practically turned over the team to Bradley and fellow senior Joe Crawford. The pair were experienced enough and good enough to make plays and score baskets when most needed.

    Bradley and Crawford consistently took the ball and made something good happen.

    That seems like a distant memory a year later.

    "It has been a little bit of a roller coaster," Porter said of Kentucky's season. "We thought we were rolling good at one point. Then there was a down as low as we can go."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Javy Pornstache View Post
    Battle of the Wildcats on Tuesday night! Kentucky-Davidson is the word on one of the matchups ESPN prefers for the NIT. Every game could be Gillispie's last from here on out, according to what I'm hearing.
    If what you are hearing is correct, Bilas and Vitale will have a field day bashing UK again.

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    If what you are hearing is correct, Bilas and Vitale will have a field day bashing UK again.

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    I am not swearing by this, but I believe the nit rules say those automatic qualifiers (teams that won the regular season conference but not the tourney) are guaranteed a home game. So that would eliminate a Davidson@UK 1st round game. I am not 100% sure on that though.
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    Billy Gillispie's not going anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    Billy Gillispie's not going anywhere.
    Sure he is... the NIT! Seriously, though, I am at the point that I do not care. I thought he wasn't the best hire they could have made and he has not done alot to change my mind, but I respect the profession enough to think any coach needs more than 2 years to succeed or fail on his own merits. I just want the entire situation resolved asap.
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