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Jayson Stark was on WLW this morning. He said that he was at Harang's last start. He was concerned with what he saw. He asked scouts in attendance what they saw. The response was that he was only working on locating his fastball, no breaking stuff. The scouts thought he looked ok.
The take home lesson? We shall see on opening day.
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Harang's stats don't bother me all that much....the reports of his fastball not being fast and his breaking pitches not breaking do.
edit: found this on the spring training updates from Sir Charles: "Actually, Aaron ended up going 6 innings of no hit ball and 4 k's and 2 bb's. Nice to see Aaron his dominant self again."
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Off today...watching hoops...didnt listen. That report is good to see!
Nice game by Harang today, especially considering the Pirates were playing their starters and not the Sunday Special scrubs....
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A 6 inning no no is more like the Aaron Harang I'm used to....
he probably would have made the team out of spring if not for his heel injury. either pitchers found a new way to get him out, or he didn't entirely recover from it, but he was out of the game not long after.The big guy was Stratton.
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The Reds have let teams know that they will wait and see whether they need to move Aaron Harang during the season. Harang is scheduled to make $12.5 million next season and $12.75 million with a $2 million buyout for 2011. After going 34-23 with a 3.68 ERA from the start of the 2006 season until he made his four-inning relief stint on two days' rest on May 15, 2008, he went 4-11, 5.88. "Aaron's been OK this spring, because he battles so hard," one scout said. "But the life on the ball he runs in on left-handed batters isn't the same."
Dusty on Harang today:
"He was sharp," Dusty Baker said. "He had a great breaking ball. Threw some good inside fast balls. That's as good an outing as I've seen in long time. He should feel very proud himself. Hopefully, we can go from here."
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Cedric 3/24/08It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
I personally think that anyone who's trying to use quotes by unnamed sources or Dusty Baker is barking up the wrong tree. I'm not neccessarily saying you guys are doing it, but if the intention is using those snippets as anything more than "food for thought" then I think your going to get a misinformed opinion. Until we see Harang in the regular season all of these opinions are just as worthless as the next.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but it is funny how Baker is an idiot when he isn't on your side of the fence and all-knowing when he is.
I was thinking the same thing (in general, not just pointed at you OBM).
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