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    Re: Bats beat Tides 4-3

    I really like Carlos Fisher
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    Re: Bats beat Tides 4-3

    An an unabashed Dan O'Brien, I can't help but point out how O'B's picks just seem to keep on working out. By the end of this season we're likely to have six picks or signees: Bruce, Cueto, Bailey, Fisher, Rosales, Tatum. Too bad the man with the binders didn't get a little more time.

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    Re: Bats beat Tides 4-3

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    An an unabashed Dan O'Brien, I can't help but point out how O'B's picks just seem to keep on working out. By the end of this season we're likely to have six picks or signees: Bruce, Cueto, Bailey, Fisher, Rosales, Tatum. Too bad the man with the binders didn't get a little more time.
    That doesn't even count the guy he traded for Brandon Phillips who he drafted in 2005 in the 6th round who has been pretty darn good in the minor leagues, Jeff Stevens.
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    Year	Age	Lvl	W	L	ERA	IP	H	HR	BB	SO	H9	HR9	BB9	K9	WHIP
    2005	21	Rk	4	4	2.98	54.1	44	4	15	58	7.3	0.7	2.5	9.6	1.09
    2006	22	A	7	3	4.42	73.1	65	4	23	60	8	0.5	2.8	7.4	1.2
     	22	A	2	4	4.43	42.2	42	6	16	43	8.9	1.3	3.4	9.1	1.36
    2007	23	A+	3	2	2.31	35	18	2	9	37	4.6	0.5	2.3	9.5	0.77
     	23	AA	3	1	3.17	48.1	40	4	16	65	7.4	0.7	3	12.1	1.16
    2008	24	AA	5	1	2.51	28.2	19	2	11	37	6	0.6	3.5	11.6	1.05
     	24	AAA	0	3	3.94	29.2	19	3	16	44	5.8	0.9	4.9	13.3	1.18
    Totals			24	18	3.52	312	247	25	106	344	7.1	0.7	3.1	9.9	1.13

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    Re: Bats beat Tides 4-3

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    An an unabashed Dan O'Brien, I can't help but point out how O'B's picks just seem to keep on working out. By the end of this season we're likely to have six picks or signees: Bruce, Cueto, Bailey, Fisher, Rosales, Tatum. Too bad the man with the binders didn't get a little more time.
    I think DanO's positive moves have been exaggerated by many people RedsZone, but I have to admit that some of the most important players in the organization were brought over during his tenure, so I have to give him credit for that. However, I think it's worth noting that a lot of those guys may have never progressed so well if it had not been for the players brought into the organization during the Krivsky days.

    To go back to DanO's impact being exaggerated, look at the 2004 draft. Only seven of those guys have stayed in the organization, and Homer Bailey is probably the only one of them who has a chance at being average or better at the Major League level. That's pretty sad, if you ask me.

    As for the 2005 draft, it was certainly an improvement, but how much can you realistically expect out of Jay Bruce, Travis Wood, Sam LeCure, Carlos Fisher, and Adam Rosales? I'm not saying it was a bad draft--it was head and shoulders above anything JimBo did--but I'm simply not impressed.

    Every draft since, though, is looking much better than DanO's. I realize that DanO didn't actually make the draft picks, but it was his responsibility to put together a group of people who could draft well for him, and so far, it looks like the Reds only got average-at-best drafts from those two years.

    The reason DanO has looked good largely comes from Johnny Cueto, Juan Francisco, Ramon Ramirez, and Pedro Viola. All of those guys, even Cueto, were very raw when they signed, and we have seen them advance significantly over just the past couple years. The talent was always there, and DanO & Co. deserve credit for finding them, but I think a lot of their progress has come from the training they've received since joining the organization--particularly the coaching over the past few years--and I don't think O'Brien had a whole lot to do with the coaching of the past three years.


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