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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    What would be really interesting is if both Meeks and Patterson leave and Kentucky is led by two (Wall, Cousins) or three (add Henry) freshmen, intent on being one and done. Could make for a trainwreck of a season or a Final Four. And, BTW, Meeks is a Top Five player in America if he returns. To say Henry is better is ridiculous. He may have talent, but the proof, as they say, is in the pudding and Meeks is a souffle.
    Well put. Give me "the known" any day. Henry may be a great player. I know Meeks is. And yes, given the folks we know are going pro, Meeks will be a first team preseason All American.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Sounds like Nolan Dennis will be the next kid to commit to Kentucky under Coach Cal. #44 overall prospect in next year's class by ESPN... I *LOVE* this development. Nolan is an extremely talented kid who will be awesome at Kentucky, but he's also a kid who will likely stick around for AT LEAST 3 years. It's going to be important to get some of those supremely talented kids who will stick with the program for more than one season.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    Had to fix that for you. Because we may be hearing from you that Henry is lazy and plays no d and wouldn't fit in Cal's system if he signs with Kansas.
    LOL. Hopson isn't on the same planet right now as Xavier.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    That really doesn't amount to much unless you are Carmelo Anthony.

    I'd love to see the road to the NBA run through Lexington, but I'd also rather have a championship more.
    Huh? We were debating Xavier vs. Meeks. He brought up AA and I brought up lottery pick.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    LOL. Hopson isn't on the same planet right now as Xavier.
    This is why I hate talking about recruiting. You're talking in absolutisms about a kid who has never played in a college game. He will very likely be a good player. But have you heard of Herb Pope? Davon Jeffferson? Ousmane Cisse? Marcus Taylor? All former top 5 ranked recruits from the past ten years.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    This is why I hate talking about recruiting. You're talking in absolutisms about a kid who has never played in a college game. He will very likely be a good player. But have you heard of Herb Pope? Davon Jeffferson? Ousmane Cisse? Marcus Taylor? All former top 5 ranked recruits from the past ten years.
    LeBron Henry is 100x better than all of them. It's an "absolute" truth.

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    LeBron Henry is 100x better than all of them. It's an "absolute" truth.
    Roger, Roger.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    Roger, Roger.
    I hear they have already given him the Naismith Award for next season.

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    I hear they have already given him the Naismith Award for next season.
    Vegas has UK as a favorite to make the Final 4. Degenerate gamblers tell me Vegas is always right.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    Sounds like Nolan Dennis will be the next kid to commit to Kentucky under Coach Cal. #44 overall prospect in next year's class by ESPN... I *LOVE* this development. Nolan is an extremely talented kid who will be awesome at Kentucky, but he's also a kid who will likely stick around for AT LEAST 3 years. It's going to be important to get some of those supremely talented kids who will stick with the program for more than one season.
    Out of curiosity, who would you rather have if you could pick? John Wall for one year or Eric Bledsoe for three to four?

    From what I have been reading on Bledsoe, he is a better defender than Wall and could develop into a Chris Paul type.
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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    Out of curiosity, who would you rather have if you could pick? John Wall for one year or Eric Bledsoe for three to four?

    From what I have been reading on Bledsoe, he is a better defender than Wall and could develop into a Chris Paul type.
    IU fans had these types of discussions last year with Gordon and Hummel. One year of Eric Gordon or 3-4 years of Robbie Hummel, which would you choose? Interesting debate for sure.

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    Out of curiosity, who would you rather have if you could pick? John Wall for one year or Eric Bledsoe for three to four?

    From what I have been reading on Bledsoe, he is a better defender than Wall and could develop into a Chris Paul type.
    Honestly, I don't know enough about Bledsoe to say.

    However, if Meeks and Patterson both return along with Cousins, Dennis, and possibly Orton, I would want Wall. Wall could legitimately propel that squad into the Final Four next season.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    IU fans had these types of discussions last year with Gordon and Hummel. One year of Eric Gordon or 3-4 years of Robbie Hummel, which would you choose? Interesting debate for sure.
    This is what concerns me,

    Let's say Wall spurns Kentucky and goes to Duke in order to stay close to home. He's in the ACC and it is unlikely Kentucky plays Duke unless its in the NCAA tournament.

    Now lets say Wall goes to Kentucky. Bledsoe's top choices after UK are Alabama and Florida (Doubt UC factors much into the equation). We get Wall for one year, he departs, and we are likely facing Bledsoe as much as three times a year.

    I'm sure you can see my point with Robbie Hummel. You just have to hope Cal can keep the revolving door continuing at PG, whether its Brandon Knight, Tony Wroten, Joe Jackson, or whoever.
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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    This is what concerns me,

    Let's say Wall spurns Kentucky and goes to Duke in order to stay close to home. He's in the ACC and it is unlikely Kentucky plays Duke unless its in the NCAA tournament.

    Now lets say Wall goes to Kentucky. Bledsoe's top choices after UK are Alabama and Florida (Doubt UC factors much into the equation). We get Wall for one year, he departs, and we are likely facing Bledsoe as much as three times a year.

    I'm sure you can see my point with Robbie Hummel. You just have to hope Cal can keep the revolving door continuing at PG, whether its Brandon Knight, Tony Wroten, Joe Jackson, or whoever.
    There's the risk with one-and-done players. You better have another one coming in right afterwards to replace him.

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    This is what concerns me,

    Let's say Wall spurns Kentucky and goes to Duke in order to stay close to home. He's in the ACC and it is unlikely Kentucky plays Duke unless its in the NCAA tournament.

    Now lets say Wall goes to Kentucky. Bledsoe's top choices after UK are Alabama and Florida (Doubt UC factors much into the equation). We get Wall for one year, he departs, and we are likely facing Bledsoe as much as three times a year.

    I'm sure you can see my point with Robbie Hummel. You just have to hope Cal can keep the revolving door continuing at PG, whether its Brandon Knight, Tony Wroten, Joe Jackson, or whoever.
    After doing some cursory research, I'm not worried about missing out on Bledsoe at all. First of all, he's six feet tall. Cal likes BIG guards.

    Secondly, I'd take Nolan Dennis all day every day over Bledsoe. Dennis is MUCH taller (6'5") and is a combo guard who can do it all.

    I would say that Bledsoe is a player that Cal looks at only as a back-up plan. He would also almost certainly recruit over him with a bigger guard who is just as--if not more--talented by his second year.
    Last edited by WMR; 04-09-2009 at 04:46 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"



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