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Thread: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    Not really. IU knew Sampson was a crook and they hired him anyway.
    Totally different, obviously.
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    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    WillyMo, you've got mail.
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    I've read books about sparkling vampires who walk around in the daylight that were written better than a John Fay article.

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Not really. IU knew Sampson was a crook and they hired him anyway.
    Another thing to keep in mind, this was known back in January by Memphis. I would also bet that Mrs. Bell caught it as well. Do you think Kentucky would have made a full fledged run at Cal and Memphis would have fought us tooth and nail to keep Cal since both parties likely knew about this?
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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Everybody's favorite Wildcat, Mr. Saul Smith:

    “Bad bad day for my alma mater,” Smith wrote. “The UK athletic program will never regain its true champion nature with Businessmen running it. Never, no matter how many so called blue chip players you bring in. You can’t sacrifice your integrity for success. You just can’t do it. I’m an alum and I deserve a clean-ran program, plain and simple. Period, and if anyone disagrees, you, my friend, shouldn’t support the program I played 4.”
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    I've read books about sparkling vampires who walk around in the daylight that were written better than a John Fay article.

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    Hahahaha, a true clown. I guess nepotism doesn't affect integrity, in his opinion?

    Talk about someone who should keep his mouth shut.

    Darwin Award winner.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Another thing to keep in mind, this was known back in January by Memphis. I would also bet that Mrs. Bell caught it as well. Do you think Kentucky would have made a full fledged run at Cal and Memphis would have fought us tooth and nail to keep Cal since both parties likely knew about this?
    Some programs make risky hires. That shouldn't be news to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Some programs make risky hires. That shouldn't be news to anyone.
    The point is that they were willing to retain him as coach knowing full well of these allegations. That means they were certain that there would not be long-term ramifications that would prevent Cal from continuing to coach at Memphis.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed27 View Post
    I guess it really comes down to:
    1. Did Rose cheat on his SAT?
    2. If he did did Memphis know about it?
    3. If Memphis knew about it did Cal know about it?

    I suppose its possible that 1 happened and 2 and 3 didn't. There is no way that 1 and 2 happened but not 3. The only reason Cal would have any problem is if all of those happened and from the facts of the case so far it appears that isn't the case. But we'll see.
    Since I don't know anything, according to WilyMo, you can disregard my thoughts.

    If 1 happened without 2 and 3 then I would say the fault lies within the NCAA clearing house and also the SAT. IMO if Memphis knew nothing then there really isn't a NCAA violation. The problem becomes if Memphis knew about it how does Cal not? Mo on 1530 homer says it better than I can.

    -If you're a UK fan, you love the swagger that John Calipari has brought back to the program. You love the recruits he's brought and the excitement he's ushered in. You hang on every work of his great press conferences. You subscribe to his Twitter feed.

    You also inevitably deal with this. Memphis is handling accusations of "knowing fraudulence or misconduct" on Derrick Rose's SAT, and of cash being paid to an "associate"of a player. Not good. John Calipari might have nothing to do with it, and he might. We'll see. But the fact of the matter is that the Final Four he took UMass to in 1996 has been removed from the record books, and the Final Four he took Memphis to in '08 faces possibily the same fate. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.. But isn't bad enough that we even have to wonder?

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    I would say his knowing about the allegations in January would make sense. Now we know why Kentucky was his "dream job".
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    I would say his knowing about the allegations in January would make sense. Now we know why Kentucky was his "dream job".
    Anything to get out of Memphis before the hammer drops?

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    Anything to get out of Memphis before the hammer drops?
    Yeah, I'm sure Memphis would have been willing to give him a 35 million dollar contract knowing that he's about to be in some sort of trouble with the NCAA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    Yeah, I'm sure Memphis would have been willing to give him a 35 million dollar contract knowing that he's about to be in some sort of trouble with the NCAA.
    Like probation? That wouldn't stop them from trying to retain him. Especially if probation is coming with or without him.

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    I would say his knowing about the allegations in January would make sense. Now we know why Kentucky was his "dream job".
    Kentucky and Memphis both knew as well, yet they both campaigned to make him the highest paid coach in college basketball.
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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    Like probation? That wouldn't stop them from trying to retain him. Especially if probation is coming with or without him.
    It's just clearly not a John Calipari issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    It's just clearly not a John Calipari issue.
    That's great for UK. The fact he hasn't been implicated in the Memphis investigation isn't going to make the issue go away though.


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