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Thread: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    Here's the thing: Cal's not crooked. Memphis has problems all over their ENTIRE athletics department.

    We know that he wasn't involved with Camby.

    And those were at smaller schools. I guarantee you every i will be dotted and every t crossed at UK.

    UK's not USC, thank God.

    Riiiiight.

    Cal leaves 2 programs and they coincidentally both are probably going to go on probation.



    Legally, he's in the clear and that's probably all that matters.

    But in the court of public opinion, he'll be viewed much differently.

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    Riiiiight.

    Cal leaves 2 programs and they coincidentally both are probably going to go on probation.

    OK, so let's say Kentucky wins a national championship in the next 2-3 years under Cal and by the end of his tenure there is no investigations or no banners taken down.

    What will everybody say then?

    It's the compliance department people. Not the head coach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTCromer View Post
    Legally, he's in the clear and that's probably all that matters.

    But in the court of public opinion, he'll be viewed much differently.
    This is basically what I've been trying to say and have obviously failed at doing so. He's clear legally. In the general public's eyes (except in Kentucky), he looks shady. But you're right, what ultimately really matters is the legal part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    OK, so let's say Kentucky wins a national championship in the next 2-3 years under Cal and by the end of his tenure there is no investigations or no banners taken down.

    What will everybody say then?

    It's the compliance department people. Not the head coach.
    Probably that he was shady at his previous two stops and he somehow managed to dodge the bullet at UK. Honestly, what difference does it make what those people say as long as he doesn't get Kentucky in hot water while he's there?

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    The problem when you micro-manage your program the way all these top guys do is that when something happens, it's your fault. It doesn't matter if you knew about it, didn't know about it, whatever. It's got your hands on it.

    Derrick Rose' brother didn't pay for two trips on the team plane, not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but it looks shady.

    It's possible that he didn't know about Derrick Rose (allegedly) cheating on his SAT. It's possible but unlikely and in the end it all is on him anyway.

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    On a non-Calipari note, the legal battle could get messy with Gillispie and UKAA.

    http://blog.kentuckysportsradio.com/

    You know how you know you are a lawyer…when you are much more interested in the Billy Clyde lawsuit than the Calipari story. I will have much more on Clyde and his Texas two-step of a case (simple answer: has a decent legal argument, is committing professional suicide), but first, lets meet Demetrios Anaipakos, Billy Clyde’s attorney! When I saw that Clyde had hired Anaipakos, I called a friend in Houston who told me “Demetrios is one of the best trial lawyers in the city. You hire him when you are ready to fight and you think it is going to get dirty.” That tells me all I need to know. Here is the Anaipakos file:

    Demetrios Anaipakos has rapidly become recognized as one of the most aggressive, young trial lawyers in Texas. As early as 1999, Mr. Anaipakos was profiled in a lengthy article in the Daily Court Review as a “Houston trial lawyer leaving his mark.” Since then, Mr. Anaipakos’ high-profile cases and courtroom victories have attracted local, state wide, and national attention. Mr. Anaipakos has appeared in the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune, the Houston Chronicle, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, Newsweek, Businessweek, the USA Today, the National Law Journal, the Texas Lawyer, and many other national and international periodicals. He has also appeared as a guest on Good Morning America, the CBS Early Show, the NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, Moneyline with Lou Dobbs, Energy News Live, the BBC, as well as on several local and regional newscasts.

    Mr. Anaipakos represents Plaintiffs and Defendants in complex commercial cases, high-stakes employment matters, as well as catastrophic personal injury claims. Mr. Anaipakos has tried cases in both state and federal courts and has been counsel in several significant cases involving allegations of damages into the hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Born in El Paso, Texas, Mr. Anaipakos graduated from Stanford University with an A.B. in Political Science and from Stanford Law School with a J.D. where he was an Associate Editor of the Stanford Law Review. After graduating from law school, Mr. Anaipakos clerked for the Honorable Edith H. Jones of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. Mr. Anaipakos then began actively practicing trial law at Vinson & Elkins, L.L.P. where he represented plaintiffs and defendants in complex commercial disputes as well as in significant tort cases. In March of 2000, Mr. Anaipakos joined an aggressive litigation boutique, Ahmad & Zavitsanos, and the Firm’s name was changed to Ahmad, Zavitsanos & Anaipakos, P.C.

    Hey he has been on Lou Dobbs! Seriously though, that is an impressive resume. The Judge he clerked for, Edith Jones, was considered for the Supreme Court under George W. Bush and is a one stop shop for the brightest far right-wing clerks in the country. People who make the cut for her are usually very conservative and also very intelligent. Anaipakos has a reputation as one of the best litigation lawyers in Texas and from what I understand is also one of the most expensive. That means to me that Billy Clyde has decided to “cowboy up” and bring the big stick for this fight.

    Already today, Anaipakos has been on the radio talking about the case:



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    All of this tells me that Billy Clyde intends to make this a messy fight. He has hired an extremely intelligent attorney, who has filed a 24 page Complaint (more on that later) and who is media savvy at fighting the public relations war. From a legal perspective, I think he has a decent case. But to me, this entire process will have severe ramifications on his future employment prospects. But either way, standing by his side during the entire process, playing the role of legal and spiritual advisor to the stars will be Demetrios Anaipakos, the new most famous attorney in Kentucky and one that is ready to stand up for all things Billy Clyde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    OK, so let's say Kentucky wins a national championship in the next 2-3 years under Cal and by the end of his tenure there is no investigations or no banners taken down.

    What will everybody say then?

    It's the compliance department people. Not the head coach.
    I'm trying to remember where I had heard that before?
    Can you remember BRM?

    Nevermind the fact that UK doesn't have 40 years without being on probation, yeah you're right we should just take their word for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Red View Post
    I'm trying to remember where I had heard that before?
    Can you remember BRM?

    Nevermind the fact that UK doesn't have 40 years without being on probation, yeah you're right we should just take their word for it.
    I've been trying to forget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    On a non-Calipari note, the legal battle could get messy with Gillispie and UKAA.
    This is going to get interesting. I thought this was all settled awhile back. Apparently not.

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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    You can defend Calipari all you like, but yet another program that he left is under investigation and could be on probation. That isn't good.

    And if you think he knew nothing at all about Camby, or about any of the stuff at Memphis, there is a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
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    I don't think Billy Clyde is commiting professional suicide. He has a case, and it's not like he did anything illegal or violate NCAA rules. He was forced out because of temperment and an irrational fan base. Most other school probably won't give a crap, to be honest.
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    Can UK not prove that BG was fired with cause? I am thinking they could.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    The Gillispie legal wranglings are going to be fascinating to observe.
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    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    Can UK not prove that BG was fired with cause? I am thinking they could.
    I would think they could make an excellent argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Re: 2009 UK Basketball Thread - Part III

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    Can UK not prove that BG was fired with cause? I am thinking they could.
    Didn't they agree to keep a lot of the "issues" under wraps to protect his name? Wasn't that part of the buyout or am I way off-base?


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