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    Re: Reds vs Pirates, 4.12.09

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates, 4.12.09

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Harang's first great start in nearly a calendar year. Let's hope there are more on the horizon.
    Just admit you don't like him....it's obvious. Everybody has beefs with somebody, it's ok.

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates, 4.12.09

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Just admit you don't like him....it's obvious. Everybody has beefs with somebody, it's ok.
    I don't like guys who spit the bit in their career prime. Same with Arroyo. If he performs, I'll like him. "When the facts change, I change my opinion; what do you do sir?"

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates, 4.12.09

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    I don't like guys who spit the bit in their career prime. Same with Arroyo. If he performs, I'll like him. "When the facts change, I change my opinion; what do you do sir?"
    Last season has to factor into Harang's projected performance going forward.... Harang doesn't get an '08 mulligan because of Dusty. Last season is part of his performance history and it colors what to expect from him going forward.

    That said, I think the argument is that you're dramatically over-correcting in response to last season.
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates, 4.12.09

    I don't like guys who spit the bit in their career prime. Same with Arroyo. If he performs, I'll like him.
    Are you accusing Harang and Arroyo of giving up? Arroyo finished nicely last year after a terrible first half. Harang was used poorly and struggled with injury.
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    Re: Reds vs Pirates, 4.12.09

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Are you accusing Harang and Arroyo of giving up? Arroyo finished nicely last year after a terrible first half. Harang was used poorly and struggled with injury.
    Lots of guys find the Lord after the All-Star break. I like true believers, hotheads, and long scoreless streaks.

    Truth be told, I don't blame everything on the players, as I genuinely believe there is next to no pressure to actually perform as a Cincinnati Red.

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates, 4.12.09

    Harang and Arroyo are the least of this teams problems. This offense is the number one concern I have going forward after the first two series.
    If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates, 4.12.09

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Harang's first great start in nearly a calendar year.
    So I guess his complete game shut out 4 starts ago doesn't count as a "great start"?

    It was against the Cardinals, so should be even more so impressive.

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates, 4.12.09

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Truth be told, I don't blame everything on the players, as I genuinely believe there is next to no pressure to actually perform as a Cincinnati Red.
    This I ABSOLUTELY agree with.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
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