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    Re: Check out the main MLB page at ESPN....

    Quote Originally Posted by durl View Post
    NO league needs the DH. The whole idea needs to be abolished.

    Pitchers at the plate is part of the game and influences strategy. Plus it keeps them honest in case they get too happy pegging a batter or three in the back.
    Bingo. I've never been a fan of a player only playing HALF of the game. That's what Football is for.
    Chapman to the rotation!!!! Do it already!!!!

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    Re: Check out the main MLB page at ESPN....

    This is probably the only time Aaron Harang will be on anything ESPN

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    Re: Check out the main MLB page at ESPN....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rounding Third View Post
    This is probably the only time Aaron Harang will be on anything ESPN
    A little bit off the subject, but relating to media coverage of non-AL East teams, I thought it was awesome last night when the MLB network started their Quick Pitch show (basically, their version of Baseball Tonight), with the Reds/Marlins game, and focused on the Reds pitching staff throwing 4 shutouts in 6 games.

    And this was on a night when the Red Sox played the Yankees. I have no idea what ESPN lead with, but I would bet that it was the Sox/Yanks game. Nice to see the at least the MLB network giving the Reds some due attention.
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    Re: Check out the main MLB page at ESPN....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNext44 View Post
    A little bit off the subject, but relating to media coverage of non-AL East teams, I thought it was awesome last night when the MLB network started their Quick Pitch show (basically, their version of Baseball Tonight), with the Reds/Marlins game, and focused on the Reds pitching staff throwing 4 shutouts in 6 games.

    And this was on a night when the Red Sox played the Yankees. I have no idea what ESPN lead with, but I would bet that it was the Sox/Yanks game. Nice to see the at least the MLB network giving the Reds some due attention.
    When I flipped on Quick Pitch this morning, I missed the first few minutes. I didn't think it would be a big deal - figured the Reds would be buried at the end of the program.
    Imagine my surprise when I found out (at the onset of the next hour) the Reds had lead off. That is why I love that channel.

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    Re: Check out the main MLB page at ESPN....

    Wrote this in January it still applies

    Aaron Harang currently ranks as the worst hitting player in the history of the game if we set the bar at 375 plate appearances, if we drop it to 350 he’s a hair behind Doug Davis. (ops plus -53 to -54)

    Nevertheless he’s mired in a reality that screams OUT!!!!

    Aaron Harang is the reason the AL has the DH, he’s pitiful… striking out 44% of the time he comes to the dish and he has exactly 2 walks. Any manager who worries about Harang at the plate should be placed under immediate observation. He’s made an out 92.5% of the time he’s approached the plate in major league baseball.
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    OPS                         OPS      PA       RB       SO       BB       EBH
    Aaron Harang               .182      388       33      170        2        3
    Dean Chance                .183      759       79      420       30        2
    Ben Sheets                 .196      492       51      204       18        3
    Bob Buhl                   .220      952      116      389       38        2
    Ron Kline                  .222      548       62      221       15        3
    Al Benton                  .223      579       58      200        7        7
    Ryan Dempster              .224      434       42      154        8        8
    Hank Aguirre               .225      427       47      236       14        8
    Jose DeLeon                .226      490       56      171       16        2
    Jim Deshaies               .230      440       56      186       23        0

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    I find it unimmaginable to think that anyone was a worse hitter than Hank Aguirre. His numbers may have been better than Harangs but Hank hit in an era when all pitchers batted. He was lucky to guess what end of the bat to hold. Fans gave him standing ovations for a foul tip, umpires had to explain the batter's box to him!

    Of course, he was a Detroit Tiger so that explains a lot. :

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    You know all those AL teams - they never use pinch hitters, double switches or strategy.

    My one year old looks more at home swinging a bat than most pitchers - real exciting entertainment.

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    Re: Check out the main MLB page at ESPN....

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcclain19 View Post
    That's why the NL needs the DH.

    Watching guys like Harang hit is awful - if I'm paying big bucks to watch the best play I don't want to watch guys flail about at the baseball like it's a pinata.
    That's a terrible idea, and I hope it never happens.

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    Re: Check out the main MLB page at ESPN....

    Im amazed at how bad some pitchers are at hitting. Most of the time, they were typically the best talent on their high school or college teams but when they come to the majors, they look like a bag boy swinging at MLB pitching. I just cant wrap my head around it.

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    Re: Check out the main MLB page at ESPN....

    Quote Originally Posted by smith288 View Post
    Im amazed at how bad some pitchers are at hitting. Most of the time, they were typically the best talent on their high school or college teams but when they come to the majors, they look like a bag boy swinging at MLB pitching. I just cant wrap my head around it.
    Yes, it's like "I'm a pitcher now and have erased all memory of hitting a baseball."

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    Re: Check out the main MLB page at ESPN....

    Quote Originally Posted by smith288 View Post
    Im amazed at how bad some pitchers are at hitting. Most of the time, they were typically the best talent on their high school or college teams but when they come to the majors, they look like a bag boy swinging at MLB pitching. I just cant wrap my head around it.
    Bill James theory is that as you progress in leagues that the pitchers talent for hitting always wanes, this takes hold as each player heightens their specialties and each league gets progressively harder challenging the player more and more thus leaving the pitcher to spend the majority of his career honing the skill that keeps him in the big leagues. So in essence hours of cage time for a hitter is translated into hours of pitching time and training for the pitcher, and there are just so many hours in a day on a baseball field.

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    Hitting a baseball thrown by major league caliber pitchers is such a specialized, demanding and difficult skill. Even an athlete as mentally and physically strong as Michael Jorden found out the hard way just how tough it is.

    The difference between the best high school pitcher Harang ever faced and the worst major league pitcher who had his way with him is enormous.
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    We have GOT to keep calling out our players on threads.

    Harang obviously reads RedsZone.
    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
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    OK, now we need a thread on pitchers baserunning.
    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
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    That hit by Harang was huge tonight. Kudos to him on his birthday.


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