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    Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Feast your eyes:

    Road starts:

    4/14 at Milwaukee---6 1/3 innings 1 run 4 hits 4 walks 3 Ks

    4/20 at Houston---7 innings 3 runs 9 hits 0 walks 2 Ks

    5/1 at Pittsburgh---8 innings 0 runs 4 hits 3 walks 4 Ks

    That's 21 1/3 road innings with four runs allowed.
    Home starts:

    4/9 NY Mets --- 6 innings 5 runs 8 hits 2 walks 4 Ks

    4/25 Atlanta---5 2/3 innings 9 runs 9 hits 3 walks 5 Ks

    5/6 Milwaukee---1+ inning 9 runs 9 hits 3 walks 0 Ks

    That's 12 2/3 home innings with 23 runs allowed.
    While he hasn't necessarily been a world-beater on the road, he has been more than just serviceable, keeping the team in games and giving them a chance to win. At home so far this year? Not so much. The Reds overcame the 4/9 start thanks to facing Ollie Perez, but the other two, no chance.

    I have no idea why it is skewed for him to start 2009, but perhaps he should go stay in a hotel room in downtown Cincy or something before his next home start.

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    Can Arroyo keep the judy-est lineup in the majors in check tomorrow night in Arizona? Will he escape the first with a single-digit runs-allowed tally? Stay tuned.

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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    While he hasn't necessarily been a world-beater on the road, he has been more than just serviceable, keeping the team in games and giving them a chance to win. At home so far this year? Not so much. The Reds overcame the 4/9 start thanks to facing Ollie Perez, but the other two, no chance.
    1.69 ERA is serviceable?

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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    In three years, Arroyo has had two starts at Chase Field where he posted an 0-1 record, 15 hits/13 innings, 5 ERs, and a very respectable 3.46 ERA.

    2006.... L 3-1, 6 IP, 11 hits, 3 ERs.

    2007.... No decision, 7 IP, 4 hits, 2 ERs,

    I bet you'll see more of the same out of him tomorrow night.
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by kpresidente View Post
    1.69 ERA is serviceable?
    I said:

    he has been MORE than just serviceable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    In three years, Arroyo has had two starts at Chase Field where he posted an 0-1 record, 15 hits/13 innings, 5 ERs, and a very respectable 3.46 ERA.

    2006.... L 3-1, 6 IP, 11 hits, 3 ERs.

    2007.... No decision, 7 IP, 4 hits, 2 ERs,

    I bet you'll see more of the same out of him tomorrow night.
    If he can't do it there against that offense, he might as well hang up the spikes, quite honestly.

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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Feast your eyes:

    Road starts:



    Home starts:



    While he hasn't necessarily been a world-beater on the road, he has been more than just serviceable, keeping the team in games and giving them a chance to win. At home so far this year? Not so much. The Reds overcame the 4/9 start thanks to facing Ollie Perez, but the other two, no chance.

    I have no idea why it is skewed for him to start 2009, but perhaps he should go stay in a hotel room in downtown Cincy or something before his next home start.
    Actually i would say he has been a world beater on the road ya know lol
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    I have no idea why it is skewed for him to start 2009, but perhaps he should go stay in a hotel room in downtown Cincy or something before his next home start.
    First question: who's to say he isn't staying in a hotel room in Cincinnati, just not alone?

    Second question: did he bring his boat up from Florida (with accompaning accessories)?

    Either of those scenarios could explain the home/road difference.

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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Didn't he have some extreme Daygame/ Nightgame splits last year or the year before?

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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollcat View Post
    Didn't he have some extreme Daygame/ Nightgame splits last year or the year before?

    Good point. He's typically not been a very good day game pitcher, at least antecdotally. I also wonder about home run rates home vs road. I don't have the time to look it up, but wonder if that might play into it. Not that I'm trying to blame GABP.
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Not so much related to home vs. road but I found it interesting:

    Bronson Arroyo - 5-2, 7.02 ERA

    Dan Haren - 3-4, 2.09 ERA

    Yet another example to show how misleading W/L records can be.
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    Not so much related to home vs. road but I found it interesting:

    Bronson Arroyo - 5-2, 7.02 ERA

    Dan Haren - 3-4, 2.09 ERA

    Yet another example to show how misleading W/L records can be.
    Arroyo's season has been interesting. Take away the two disasters, and he has been really good. So that 7.02 ERA, while not exactly misleading, certainly doesn't tell the whole tale. I generally feel Arroyo will give the team a good chance to win in four of every five starts. That fifth one can get really ugly, though. It also skews his stats. In fact, I'd argue that in this case, his W-L record is more reflective of his performance to date than his ERA.
    Last edited by osuceltic; 05-13-2009 at 01:24 PM.

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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by osuceltic View Post
    Arroyo's season has been interesting. Take away the two disasters, and he has been really good. So that 7.02 ERA, while not exactly misleading, certainly doesn't tell the whole tail. I generally feel Arroyo will give the team a good chance to win in four of every five starts. That fifth one can get really ugly, though. It also skews his stats. In fact, I'd argue that in this case, his W-L record is more reflective of his performance to date than his ERA.
    I dunno, I think he's pitched three good games, two "veh" games and two stinkers. Based on his average run support, his record could just as easily be 4-3 or 3-4. That ERA may be a bit high but he earned every bit of it.
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    Re: Bronson Arroyo Home vs. Road 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by rotnoid View Post
    Good point. He's typically not been a very good day game pitcher, at least antecdotally. I also wonder about home run rates home vs road. I don't have the time to look it up, but wonder if that might play into it. Not that I'm trying to blame GABP.
    So much for that. Nothing too out of line there.

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