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  1. 05-13-2009, 12:42 PM #16
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    I like this thread idea.

    1. Albert Pujols
    2. Jake Peavy
    3. Josh Beckett
    4. Carl Crawford
    5. Josh Hamilton
    6. Justin Morneau
    7. Barry Zito
    8. Alexis Rios
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  3. 05-13-2009, 12:46 PM #17
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    1. Albert Pujols
    2. Jake Peavy
    3. Josh Beckett
    4. Carl Crawford
    5. Josh Hamilton
    6. Justin Morneau
    7. Barry Zito
    8. Alexis Rios
    9. Ryan Ludwick
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  4. 05-13-2009, 12:50 PM #18
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    You really think so? I'll agree that he was good early in his career, but since to move to SF...yikes. 10-17 with a 5.15 last year. While poor, it's this stat that stands out for me. 120 k's, 102 walks.
    One bad year in a decade is forgivable. Beckett had an ugly 2006. But Barry's going to throw 2,000+ IP with a sub-4.00 ERA for the entire decade. That's a damn fine 10 years.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    I am a little confused by the criteria. Are we going by who had the best career-to-date from the '99 draft? Or are we going by whom we would want today from the '99 draft? Because I would clearly rather see Aaron Harang on the mound today than Barry Zito. But Zito has put up better career numbers so far.
    It's a balance of both. The premise is that you're going back to 1999 and restaging the draft, so what a player has done prior to today definitely counts as that's what you'd be getting (in this case for the past decade) if you drafted him. As we move to newer drafts in other threads, obviously the existing body of work will shrink.
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  6. 05-13-2009, 01:19 PM #20
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    1. Albert Pujols
    2. Jake Peavy
    3. Josh Beckett
    4. Carl Crawford
    5. Josh Hamilton
    6. Justin Morneau
    7. Barry Zito
    8. Alexis Rios
    9. Ryan Ludwick
    10. Aaron Harang

    Ben Sheets is a better pitcher than Harang in a vacuum, but Harang's far more durable. Showing up is a big part of the job.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    I think it's subjective on your part. It's who YOU want at that slot. Based on past career performance, future outlook, whatever. If you prefer Aaron over Zito...take him next.
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  8. 05-13-2009, 01:21 PM #22
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    1. Albert Pujols
    2. Jake Peavy
    3. Josh Beckett
    4. Carl Crawford
    5. Josh Hamilton
    6. Justin Morneau
    7. Barry Zito
    8. Alexis Rios
    9. Ryan Ludwick
    10. Aaron Harang
    11. Brandon Phillips

    He may get bashed from time to time here, but I don't think anyone can question Phillips' skills.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    One bad year in a decade is forgivable. Beckett had an ugly 2006. But Barry's going to throw 2,000+ IP with a sub-4.00 ERA for the entire decade. That's a damn fine 10 years.
    Fair enough. I don't, however, see him improving over the next few years though. But it's hard to argue with his first 5-7 years or so. Flat out solid. (I'd still take Harangatang though *grin*)
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  10. 05-13-2009, 01:27 PM #24
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    1. Albert Pujols
    2. Jake Peavy
    3. Josh Beckett
    4. Carl Crawford
    5. Josh Hamilton
    6. Justin Morneau
    7. Barry Zito
    8. Alexis Rios
    9. Ryan Ludwick
    10. Aaron Harang
    11. Brandon Phillips
    12. Brian Roberts

    I'm surprised that Phillips was taken before Roberts.
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  11. 05-13-2009, 01:31 PM #25
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Just so it's clear, are players who were drafted but didn't sign eligible?
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  12. 05-13-2009, 01:33 PM #26
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Nice thread idea.

    1. Albert Pujols
    2. Jake Peavy
    3. Josh Beckett
    4. Carl Crawford
    5. Josh Hamilton
    6. Justin Morneau
    7. Barry Zito
    8. Alexis Rios
    9. Ryan Ludwick
    10. Aaron Harang
    11. Brandon Phillips
    12. Brian Roberts
    13. John Lackey
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Just so it's clear, are players who were drafted but didn't sign eligible?
    Aye, they are.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    1. Albert Pujols
    2. Jake Peavy
    3. Josh Beckett
    4. Carl Crawford
    5. Josh Hamilton
    6. Justin Morneau
    7. Barry Zito
    8. Alexis Rios
    9. Ryan Ludwick
    10. Aaron Harang
    11. Brandon Phillips
    12. Brian Roberts
    13. John Lackey
    14. Eric Bedard


    It was a close call between Bedard and Rich Harden...

    (even though somehow I think the Reds would have still screwed up that pick and went for the potential of Howington with that FO )
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I'm surprised that Phillips was taken before Roberts.
    I liked Phillips' speed and glove better than Roberts. Plus I'm a homer. :O)
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    1. Albert Pujols
    2. Jake Peavy
    3. Josh Beckett
    4. Carl Crawford
    5. Josh Hamilton
    6. Justin Morneau
    7. Barry Zito
    8. Alexis Rios
    9. Ryan Ludwick
    10. Aaron Harang
    11. Brandon Phillips
    12. Brian Roberts
    13. John Lackey
    14. Eric Bedard
    15. J.J. Putz
    And this one belongs to the Reds
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