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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    I still think the kid Chris Sampson with the Astros has a bright future. It could be because the 3 times I've seen him in person he was really impressive, but he's got nice stuff.
    Sampson will turn 31 years old in less than two weeks.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by Javy Pornstache View Post
    1. Albert Pujols
    2. Jake Peavy
    3. Josh Beckett
    4. Carl Crawford
    5. Josh Hamilton
    6. Justin Morneau
    7. Barry Zito
    8. Alexis Rios
    9. Ryan Ludwick
    10. Aaron Harang
    11. Brandon Phillips
    12. Brian Roberts
    13. John Lackey
    14. Eric Bedard
    15. J.J. Putz
    16. Ben Sheets
    17. Rich Harden
    18. Shane Victorino
    19. Coco Crisp
    20. Hank Blalock
    21. Brett Meyers
    22. Lyle Overbay
    23. Rich Hill
    24. Chris Duncan
    25. Reed Johnson
    26. Scott Hairston
    27. Mark Ellis
    28. Bryan Bullington
    29. Adam LaRoche
    30. Ryan Doumit
    I can't believe no one took Ryan Doumit sooner. I'd take him over everyone listed from 21-30.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Sampson will turn 31 years old in less than two weeks.
    I know. Just sayin. Despite numbers and such, I like his chances. I just came across his name in the draft list and I felt like I'd comment. With the astros pitching situation, it wouldn't surprise me for him to get quite a few innings this year and next. 31 is still way too young to close the book.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Lackey is already taken, medford.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    I vote we stop at 30 until we reach 2004 or so where a lot of players still have potential written on their tags.

    Doumit would have to be higher than 30. I would put him before Ludwick or JJ Putz. Probably somewhere around 16.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Pretty cool idea, wish I'd gotten here sooner.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    Pretty cool idea, wish I'd gotten here sooner.
    I'll kick off the 2000 list tomorrow.

    30 struck me as the reasonable stopping point, though people should feel free to list all the people who got robbed. Jason Jennings and Jon Rauch are none too pleased, let me tell you.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Just made my mock for 2000. When we kickin this thing off tomorrow?

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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I don't think it was. Wait until we do 2000 (tomorrow). We'll be running dry in the top 10.

    It should be interesting to see how the lists stack up against one another. My guess is '99 will stack up pretty well.

    Not much after Round 31 in 2000 other than maybe Luke Scott. Chris Dickerson in Round 32 might get a vote. Actually, you're right. Not much after round 10 or so, other than Jason Bay. Adam LaRoche can be taken again.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by BearcatShane View Post
    Just made my mock for 2000. When we kickin this thing off tomorrow?
    Sometime in the a.m.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    If you're wondering if the guy who signed Albert Pujols (13th Round of this draft) was some super-genious, or something, it turns out that he just got lucky.

    Players signed by Dave Karaff

    Player Name Position High Level Signed Year Signing Team Region

    Keith Helton P AAA 1987 Seattle Mariners Arkansas
    John Nelson SS MLB 2001 St. Louis Cardinals Kansas
    Albert Pujols 1B-LF MLB 1999 St. Louis Cardinals Missouri
    Scott Taylor P MLB 1988 Seattle Mariners Kansas
    Les Walrond P MLB 1998 St. Louis Cardinals Kansas

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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Just wanted to break these out by round -- of the 30, 8 are 1st rounders. Only half are 1st-3rd rounders.

    1. Albert Pujols 13th

    2. Jake Peavy 8th

    3. Josh Beckett 1st/2

    4. Carl Crawford 2nd

    5. Josh Hamilton 1st/1

    6. Justin Morneau 3rd (catcher in HS)

    7. Barry Zito 1st/9

    8. Alexis Rios 1st/19

    9. Ryan Ludwick 2nd

    10. Aaron Harang 6th

    11. Brandon Phillips 2nd

    12. Brian Roberts 1st/supp/50

    13. John Lackey 2nd

    14. Eric Bedard 6th

    15. J.J. Putz 6th

    16. Ben Sheets 1st/10

    17. Rich Harden 38th (unsigned)

    18. Shane Victorino 6th

    19. Coco Crisp 7th

    20. Hank Blalock 3rd

    21. Brett Myers 1st/12

    22. Lyle Overbay 18th

    23. Rich Hill 36th (unsigned -- Reds)

    24. Chris Duncan 1st/supp/46

    25. Reed Johnson 17th

    26. Scott Hairston 18th (unsigned)

    27. Mark Ellis 9th

    28. Bryan Bullington 37th (unsigned)

    29. Adam LaRoche

    30. Ryan Doumit 2nd
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Just wanted to break these out by round -- of the 30, 8 are 1st rounders.
    It really underscores the crapshoot nature of the draft. Only 4 of the top 10, only two 11-30 picks and only two supplemental 1st rounders made the list.
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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    It really underscores the crapshoot nature of the draft. Only 4 of the top 10, only two 11-30 picks and only two supplemental 1st rounders made the list.


    Which also goes to show on draft day that there are no reaches.

    If someone was projected as a 2nd Rounder or 3rd Rounder and you take him in the middle of the 1st, no one can really say that he's a reach. It's not like the NFL draft, where 95% of your All-Pros come from the 1st and 2nd Rounds and the first 7 picks of the 3rd Round.

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    Re: Re-do a draft - 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Which also goes to show on draft day that there are no reaches.

    If someone was projected as a 2nd Rounder or 3rd Rounder and you take him in the middle of the 1st, no one can really say that he's a reach. It's not like the NFL draft, where 95% of your All-Pros come from the 1st and 2nd Rounds and the first 7 picks of the 3rd Round.
    good point.

    It also illustrates why moving prospects for proven talent will work out more often than not. It may be embarrassing to trade a young Aaron Harang or Tom Seaver but, more often than not its trading Zach Ward for Kyle Lohse.
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