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    You have one move

    to improve the Reds. One trade, one roster substitution, one promotion, etc.
    It has to carry the team for the rest of the year, and make sense for the bigger picture. What do you do?
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    Re: You have one move

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    to improve the Reds. One trade, one roster substitution, one promotion, etc.
    It has to carry the team for the rest of the year, and make sense for the bigger picture. What do you do?
    Does it have to be realistic because I'm thinkin' Hanley Ramirez would look good in a Reds uniform....

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    Alonso 1b
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    This is a tough one. If in July Matt Holliday is back to his old self and putting up numbers do you offer Homer Bailey along with a package of maybe Heisley or Wood or something along those lines and make a run at it? I don't think I would. But the Reds need a middle of the order hitter that can strike fear in the opponet. Jermaine Dye would be great, but I'm not sure I'd want to give up Bailey for a 34 year old outfielder. But if the Reds are in it, I don't know if I would blame them to much. The pitching the Reds have is legit and I think the Reds as a team might be legit, but they need to get a bat for left field. I'll leave that up to Jocketty to figure out. As for right now, my one move would be McDonald down and Gomes up.

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    I'd make an offer for J.J. Hardy.

    Not sure who I'd give for him, though, but there's my shortstop and power bat all rolled into one.
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    Matt Holliday! Matt Holliday! Matt Hollliday!

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    Re: You have one move

    If I had 1 move than I would make damn sure that I get it right so here goes:

    White Sox Trade-Carlos Quentin(LF)-he would give us the RH pop we need in the middle of the lineup, he's 27 and would give us a nice outfield.

    Reds Trade- Edwin Encarnacion, Homer Bailey and Chris Dickerson

    The White Sox get a young 3rd baseman with pop and get a guy that can start for them over Richard in the 5th spot, while getting a #4 outfielder in Dickerson.

    The Reds fill their LF gap, and can platoon Rosales/Hairston at 3rd base, thus improving the defense!

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    Re: You have one move

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I'd make an offer for J.J. Hardy.

    Not sure who I'd give for him, though, but there's my shortstop and power bat all rolled into one.
    I like your thinking and it's at least semi-realistic. SS is the biggest question mark both short and long-term for this team, and Hardy would solve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I'd make an offer for J.J. Hardy.

    How close is Alcides Escobar? Would the Brewers trade in the division?

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    Re: You have one move

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    to improve the Reds. One trade, one roster substitution, one promotion, etc.
    It has to carry the team for the rest of the year, and make sense for the bigger picture. What do you do?
    Hmm, good one. I really hate to steal someone else's idea so I won't but that Cleveland trade someone came up with about a week or so ago was pretty sound. Let me see if I can pulll one off.

    A 3 way deal with S.D. and Anaheim.

    Anaheim gets Jake Peavy & Danny Richar

    S.D. gets Brandon Wood, Jordan Walden, Juan Francisco, Matt Maloney & Sean Watson

    Reds get Macier Izturis and Scott Hairston


    To make room for Izturis and Hairston, Janish goes to AAA and McDonald get's cut/DFA to AA (moving Heisey to AAA) for the time being. Anaheim deals from surplus and gets a much needed big time arm. S.D. gets several quality prospects that match some needs which helps them in the short term (Wood and Maloney) and long term with the other prospects. We get a better platoon partner for Nix and a good MI who can be a solid #1 or #2 hole hitter if and when Gonzo goes down still allowing for Hairston jr. to be a good bench player and Izturis becomes our future starter at SS at a fair price until we can develop an actual SS. Also gives us 1 available spot on the 40 man, allows Frazier to move back to 3rd base, frees up a roster spot in AA for Alonso and a spot for Valiquette or any of a number of worthy arms to move. Gives us some room to add a few high quality prospects in about a month. It's a win all around!

    It may not be enough to get us over the hump for us this year but I think it can help us get into playoffs and without any substantial cost either in money or prospects. It doesn't do anything negative but does continue to improve our defense, offense, speed, power, bench etc. Certainly we could find Magglio in the trash heap in a month or so and go that route as well but short of that this is the most efficient way to go.
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    Re: You have one move

    The Brewers, Cubs and Cards are NOT going to trade a player to the Reds when were all battling against each other for the same thing. They're just not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearcatShane View Post
    The Brewers, Cubs and Cards are NOT going to trade a player to the Reds when were all battling against each other for the same thing. They're just not.
    It wouldn't happen until the deadline. Who knows how it's going to shake out until.

    Somebody will be out of it. My money's on the Brewers.
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    I'm going realistic and should be a no-brainer.

    Gomes up, McDonald down
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    Re: You have one move

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    to improve the Reds. One trade, one roster substitution, one promotion, etc.
    It has to carry the team for the rest of the year, and make sense for the bigger picture. What do you do?
    Call me crazy, which many will, and I still go back and offer Homer Bailey and another minor leaguer for Jermaine Dye. I might also offer Edwin for Matt Holliday. There comes a time when potential will never evolve into performance. That time is now.
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    Re: You have one move

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    to improve the Reds. One trade, one roster substitution, one promotion, etc.
    It has to carry the team for the rest of the year, and make sense for the bigger picture. What do you do?
    Based on this portion of the criteria, I'd be reluctant to deal Bailey or Alonso, so the player acquired would probably be some one who could be had for a package headlined by Maloney, Stubbs and maybe another arm or two. If the team could get a rental of Holiday for that, then by all means, but a guy like Willingham is probably more likely. Dye may be possible for say Stubbs/Maloney. Not sure I'm as high on Dye as many others on here. I like the JJ Hardy idea, but don't see it happening in season.

    I'll go with Maloney and Manual for Willingham.
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    Ryan Zimmerman at 3B.
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