Turn Off Ads?
Page 6 of 6 FirstFirst ... 23456
Results 76 to 85 of 85

Thread: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

  1. #76
    Unsolicited Opinions traderumor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Right Down Broadway
    Posts
    18,661

    Re: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

    Owings is a good hitting pitcher. I'm not sure that he is a good hitter. Throw him breaking balls low and away, and he's done.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #77
    Et tu, Brutus? Brutus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Atlanta, Ga.
    Posts
    10,565

    Re: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    Owings is a good hitting pitcher. I'm not sure that he is a good hitter. Throw him breaking balls low and away, and he's done.
    He has a career OPS of .899. Yes, he's still toiling in the realm of 'sample size' issues. But he's got about 150 at-bats now and has carried these numbers consistently having spread the plate appearances over three seasons.

    I'm not sure what he has to do to be considered better than just 'a hitting pitcher.' Rick Ankiel, after his loss in control, was believed to probably not cut it as an everyday player before his conversion. He's done pretty well for himself, and I would have to think Owings has more upside than did Ankiel.

    Give him everyday at-bats and I bet he could hold an OPS over .900. If that were the case, he'd be highly successful, obviously.

    He might struggle with the breaking ball, but he also is not getting a chance to hit it every day. I think over time he would figure that out.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

  4. #78
    The Boss dougdirt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    35,300

    Re: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    He has a career OPS of .899. Yes, he's still toiling in the realm of 'sample size' issues. But he's got about 150 at-bats now and has carried these numbers consistently having spread the plate appearances over three seasons.

    I'm not sure what he has to do to be considered better than just 'a hitting pitcher.' Rick Ankiel, after his loss in control, was believed to probably not cut it as an everyday player before his conversion. He's done pretty well for himself, and I would have to think Owings has more upside than did Ankiel.

    Give him everyday at-bats and I bet he could hold an OPS over .900. If that were the case, he'd be highly successful, obviously.

    He might struggle with the breaking ball, but he also is not getting a chance to hit it every day. I think over time he would figure that out.
    I doubt he could hold an OPS over .900 because he just simply doesn't have the patience to OBP .375-.400 needed to do so. While he has some pop, he isn't a .550 SLG guy as an every day player.

  5. #79
    Vavasor TRF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Amarillo, TX
    Posts
    13,423

    Re: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I doubt he could hold an OPS over .900 because he just simply doesn't have the patience to OBP .375-.400 needed to do so. While he has some pop, he isn't a .550 SLG guy as an every day player.
    I watched him crush a pitch against the Astros that a CF with a slightly slower foot speed, say Ankiel, would have played into a double at least.

    He's got fantastic power, and I think he's giving hitting lessons to Harang, he of the .182 BA this year.

    I'd love to see him start 1 game in LF.
    Suck it up cupcake.

  6. #80
    Unsolicited Opinions traderumor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Right Down Broadway
    Posts
    18,661

    Re: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    He has a career OPS of .899. Yes, he's still toiling in the realm of 'sample size' issues. But he's got about 150 at-bats now and has carried these numbers consistently having spread the plate appearances over three seasons.

    I'm not sure what he has to do to be considered better than just 'a hitting pitcher.' Rick Ankiel, after his loss in control, was believed to probably not cut it as an everyday player before his conversion. He's done pretty well for himself, and I would have to think Owings has more upside than did Ankiel.

    Give him everyday at-bats and I bet he could hold an OPS over .900. If that were the case, he'd be highly successful, obviously.

    He might struggle with the breaking ball, but he also is not getting a chance to hit it every day. I think over time he would figure that out.
    As the Brewers revealed yesterday, he is helpless against off speed pitches as long as his hitting style involves stepping in the bucket and letting 'er rip. It doesn't take long for major league pitching to expose such a bush league approach to hitting.

  7. #81
    BobC, get a legit F.O.! Mario-Rijo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Springfield, Ohio
    Posts
    9,052

    Re: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    As the Brewers revealed yesterday, he is helpless against off speed pitches as long as his hitting style involves stepping in the bucket and letting 'er rip. It doesn't take long for major league pitching to expose such a bush league approach to hitting.
    This is true he does step in the bucket awful bad. That said that PH HR he hit off of Franklin was a low and away slider that he was able to wait on & pull out of the park. He needs some work on it but he could be a really solid bat, but as DD pointed out he'd need to brush up on his patience, or should I say get some at all.
    "You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one."

    --Woody Hayes

  8. #82
    Unsolicited Opinions traderumor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Right Down Broadway
    Posts
    18,661

    Re: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    This is true he does step in the bucket awful bad. That said that PH HR he hit off of Franklin was a low and away slider that he was able to wait on & pull out of the park. He needs some work on it but he could be a really solid bat, but as DD pointed out he'd need to brush up on his patience, or should I say get some at all.
    I would say that Owings would have to do like Ankiel and start over his career as a hitter and spend some times in the minors learning how to take the natural ability he has, which is what we see in his pitcher's hitting, and become a hitter and become passable in fielding a position. Right now he is just a hacker. Hacker's sometimes have good results. Heck WMP used to hit balls 500 feet with his hacking.

    But, the suggestions I have seen, and some seem serious, think he could just pick up a glove and play LF or 1B. While it may be something that Jimmy Bowden would try, I do not think it would be a good outcome.

  9. #83
    Member membengal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Baltimore
    Posts
    9,041

    Re: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

    Ankiel spent two years in the minors working on his hitting.

    If I had to guess, if Owings spent a similar time in the minors focusing exclusively on hitting, he would work on his approach to breaking stuff down and away, work on plate discipline, and come out the other side a very very useful major league hitter.

  10. #84
    BobC, get a legit F.O.! Mario-Rijo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Springfield, Ohio
    Posts
    9,052

    Re: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

    Agree with both of you. And with his arm he should/could make for an outstanding LF.
    "You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one."

    --Woody Hayes

  11. #85
    Et tu, Brutus? Brutus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Atlanta, Ga.
    Posts
    10,565

    Re: Matt Maloney has pitched better than Homer has in Louisville this year

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I doubt he could hold an OPS over .900 because he just simply doesn't have the patience to OBP .375-.400 needed to do so. While he has some pop, he isn't a .550 SLG guy as an every day player.
    Well, .900 is probably a little lofty, but more than the number itself I more or less meant he could put up some gaudy numbers as an everyday hitter. Would it be that high? Maybe not. But .820 to .850 is not at all unrealistic, and that would most certainly be good for any hitter let alone a converted pitcher.

    He too is not even in the 'prime' of his career. Given another 1,000 at-bats to work on patience, discipline and the ability to hit a bona fide breaking ball, I would have to think he has the potential to be something special with the bat.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25