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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Of course the walk to Blanton set it all up...
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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    4-0 Phillies

    2 rbi single by Utley
    rbi double by Ibanez

    Owings now at 55 pitches and still trying to get the 3rd out in the 2nd inning.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    With Ramirez set to go on Sat (most likely), who's the long man if needed today?

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post

    Can't walk the pitcher, Micah.
    Linchpin moment of the game, obvs.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Owings already closing in on 50 pitches
    Watch Dusty throw Ramirez in long relief.

    With Ramirez apparently in the rotation, the bullpen is now short an arm until Volquez comes back or is disabled. Looks like they'll get their fair share of innings today.
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    MLB audio won't stay on for me today. It seems like that may be a good thing. Marty rightly said there's a big difference in pitching against the Padres and D'Backs as opposed to the Phillies. Make one mistake and you will pay for it. Walking the pitcher is about a big a mistake you can make.
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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Watch Dusty throw Ramirez in long relief.

    With Ramirez apparently in the rotation, the bullpen is now short an arm until Volquez comes back or is disabled. Looks like they'll get their fair share of innings today.

    It could mean Reds will bring up Bailey or Maloney to start on Saturday. Maybe Lincoln needs some DL time, a long toss program or something.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    guess Owings did need the extra day.
    Let's keep in mind that pitching at noon today means Owings did not get the usual 4 days' rest. He pitched late Saturday night in San Diego, coming off the mound at about 1AM, Cincinnati time, Sunday morning. Turning him around for noon on Thursday is technically a 3 and half days' rest. So, he's going on short rest for two straight starts. It's mismanagement of the staff, pure and simple.
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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    It's much more that Owings isn't very good vs. mismanagment.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Blanton's showing Owings how it's done. Strikes out two and gets 'em 1-2-3 in the 2nd.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Blanton, the pitcher with a 6.86 ERA, sets the Reds down in order. 4-0 Phils after two.
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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Two pitchers, two stories: one throwing strikes putting up zeros; one who can't find the zone, down by 4. This game is simple.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Reds pitching right now is heading towards a major correction: Arroyo's not improving, the chinks are showing in Owings, Volquez is banged up, the bullpen can't stay hot for an eternity.
    one not so hot start so far today is showing chinks?

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    Blanton, the pitcher with a 6.86 ERA, sets the Reds down in order. 4-0 Phils after two.
    Blanton's due for a correction in the right direction; Owings was due for one in the wrong direction (ERA-wise).

    Things correct quickly against an offense like the Phils'.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Let's keep in mind that pitching at noon today means Owings did not get the usual 4 days' rest. He pitched late Saturday night in San Diego, coming off the mound at about 1AM, Cincinnati time, Sunday morning. Turning him around for noon on Thursday is technically a 3 and half days' rest. So, he's going on short rest for two straight starts. It's mismanagement of the staff, pure and simple.
    I'll admit it hasn't worked out, but I wouldn't take this argument too far. Owings only threw 81 pitches Saturday and only 90 the start before that. He had all day Sunday off after 1AM, all day Monday off, all day Tuesday off, all day Wednesday off. This game was 12:30 pm on Thursday. That sounds like a full four days off to me.

    Last year with Harang the problem was bringing him back on three days' rest, that didn't happen today. And Ramirez is not Cy Young either, no assurance what he would have done.

    The problem may be that the Phils are loaded with left handed hitting, Owings has a full 2.00 WHIP against lefties this year, not a very good number. It's just not a great match up for him.

    So yes, in retrospect Dusty shouldn't have pitched him, but it's not the crime of the century.


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