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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    It's much more that Owings isn't very good vs. mismanagment.
    Owings has been solid recently. Very good outing vs. Arizona, good in relief against San Diego. Philly is a very tough lineup for anybody. Best offense in the league.

    The mismanagement is a larger issue than today's performance anyway.
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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Let's keep in mind that pitching at noon today means Owings did not get the usual 4 days' rest. He pitched late Saturday night in San Diego, coming off the mound at about 1AM, Cincinnati time, Sunday morning. Turning him around for noon on Thursday is technically a 3 and half days' rest. So, he's going on short rest for two straight starts. It's mismanagement of the staff, pure and simple.
    Speaking of self-fulfilling prophecies...

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    one not so hot start so far today is showing chinks?
    His FIP has shown them all season. He's a walks machine.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Well that's that.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Dobbs homers and the Phils lead 5-0 in the middle of the third.
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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Hopefully Owings can hit a 5-run Home Run in the 3rd to make up for his performance so far.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    It's much more that Owings isn't very good vs. mismanagment.
    unfortunately
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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    That sounds like a full four days off to me.
    You're right -- my bad.
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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Hmmm, the best offense in the league beating up on our 5th starter after being held in check for 2 days. It must be Owings needing extra rest, eh?

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Tom pointing out Blanton showing control whereby he has struggled all year. I would call it no fear against our lineup these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    Tom pointing out Blanton showing control whereby he has struggled all year. I would call it no fear against our lineup these days.

    Eh, it's just that Blanton, on balance, is a much better pitcher than Owings, and performance is starting to prove that.

    Yeah, Blanton walked several his last time out, but he was facing the 3rd best offense in the NL, the Nationals.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post
    Hopefully Owings can hit a 5-run Home Run in the 3rd to make up for his performance so far.
    Or a 1 out single. Either/or.

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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    At least the guy can swing the dude can still swing the bat.
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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Owings has been solid recently. Very good outing vs. Arizona, good in relief against San Diego. Philly is a very tough lineup for anybody. Best offense in the league.

    The mismanagement is a larger issue than today's performance anyway.
    Owings has been a below average starter all season. San Diego hasn't ruined him today. Philadelphia just finds below average pitchers to be yummy for lunch.
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    Re: 5/21/09 - Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Eh, it's just that Blanton, on balance, is a much better pitcher than Owings, and performance is starting to prove that.

    Yeah, Blanton walked several his last time out, but he was facing the 3rd best offense in the NL, the Nationals.
    Yeah, if you compare the lineups today and compare the pitchers, you have to wonder why the outcome was ever in doubt.


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