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    Delmon Young ?

    http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_r...ck-trade-value

    He may not be great but he has some decent talent , what relievers package would it take ? personally I could see guys like Masset and Fisher making this trade possible
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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    I'd rather have Masset and Fisher.
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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    I'd take a shot at it.......my guess would be he's tremendously undervalued right now. I wouldn't give up a ton though, that's the point of getting someone while they are undervalued.

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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    I'd say it's a good time to buy low on Young. I don't understand how a player with his potential has been so mediocre. Is he one of those players that performs in the minors only to flame out in the bigs (Larson) or does he need a classic "change of scenery" to get things going? I think it would be worth a middle reliever to find out. Burton maybe?

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    I'd like to see Cincinnati deal for him. He's only 23 and could flourish in a park that doesn't have artificial turf. Too, it's homer friendly, allowing Young 20-25-homer possibility. His biggest problem, by far, is his BB rate, or lack thereof. He's never walked a lot, but he's been downright horrid for awhile now.
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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpup View Post
    I'd rather have Masset and Fisher.
    Me too.

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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    I was all for this in the off-season, but don't want to see Masset and Fisher sent for him now. Can they get him cheaper than that? If so, great. Otherwise, not so much...

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    Some team is going to get Young for next to nothing and it could find itself with an impact bat (particularly if he gets to play in a tiny park).

    When this guy busts out, and he will (if not this season, then in the coming years), he's going to be a high BA power bat. If the Reds paired him with Bruce and Votto, the club would have a 3-4-5 combination around which it could build an offense for the next five or so seasons.
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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    Bailey for Young???

    IMO its time to trade Bailey for some other former top prospect who also seems to need a change of scenery. Delmon Young fits this category. So does Brandon Wood.
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    The Twins traded a top prospect for Young a little over a year ago and already want to unload him? What does that tell you?
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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Will M View Post
    Bailey for Young???

    IMO its time to trade Bailey for some other former top prospect who also seems to need a change of scenery. Delmon Young fits this category. So does Brandon Wood.
    I'd do that in a second, actually. They are almost mirror images of each other at different positions.

    My only additional concern is Delmon's fielding. I somehow have the impression that he is a god awful OF--hence the Rays traded him because he didn't fit with their defense-oriented plan. I may be wrong about that though.
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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    I would trade Massett and Fisher for Young. I'd prefer to try to keep 1 of the 2 though and package someone else (or a couple others). I'd rather move Roenicke than either of those 2.

    I actually really like the idea of Bailey for Young though. As pointed out, they're very similar in their own respects.

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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Topcat View Post
    http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_r...ck-trade-value

    He may not be great but he has some decent talent , what relievers package would it take ? personally I could see guys like Masset and Fisher making this trade possible
    Blech, I might give'em Weathers and maybe Bray if the were healthy. If the twins were willing to include something useful in addition to Young, I might be willing to add Reonicke in addition to Stormy. Masset and Fisher are too much to give up for a chronic under-acheiver with a crappy attitude though.
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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    FWIW, George Foster was once a disappointing, sulky, underachieving player too. Young's got a similar game.
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    Re: Delmon Young ?

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    FWIW, George Foster was once a disappointing, sulky, underachieving player too. Young's got a similar game.
    Interesting comp, Delmon has 2 times as many AB's and has yet to play a full year 23 season.... he has less pop and more BA in his make up, he's chock full of doubles and would rock in the GAB is a good guess, with occasional streak's of out making in the Jose Guillen and Brandon Phillips range.

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    DELMON YOUNG
    
    AGE < 24
    
    YEAR TEAM         AGE G    AB    R    H    2B  3B  HR   HR%   RBI  BB   SO   SB   CS  AVG   SLG  OBA   OPS
    2006 Rays         20   30   126   16   40   9   1   3   2.38   10    1   24    2   2  .317  .476  .336  .812 
    2007 Rays         21  162   645   65  186  38   0  13   2.02   93   26  127   10   3  .288  .408  .316  .723 
    2008 Twins        22  152   575   80  167  28   4  10   1.74   69   35  105   14   5  .290  .405  .336  .741 
         TOTALS           344  1346  161  393  75   5  26   1.93  172   62  256   26  10  .292  .413  .326  .739 
         LG AVERAGE            1314  185  355  72   7  39   2.93  177  126  246   22   8  .270  .424  .338  .761 
         POS AVERAGE           1329  197  368  76   8  46   3.43  198  132  266   21   8  .277  .449  .346  .794 
    
    
    
    GEORGE FOSTER
    
    AGE < 24
    
    YEAR TEAM         AGE G    AB    R    H    2B  3B  HR   HR%   RBI  BB   SO   SB   CS  AVG   SLG  OBA   OPS
    1969 Giants       20    9     5    1    2   0   0   0   0.00    1    0    1    0   0  .400  .400  .400  .800 
    1970 Giants       21    9    19    2    6   1   1   1   5.26    4    2    5    0   0  .316  .632  .381 1.013 
    1971 Giants       22   36   105   11   28   5   0   3   2.86    8    6   27    0   1  .267  .400  .304  .704 
         Reds         22  104   368   39   86  18   4  10   2.72   50   23   93    7   6  .234  .386  .289  .675 
         TOTALS           140   473   50  114  23   4  13   2.75   58   29  120    7   7  .241  .389  .292  .681 
    1972 Reds         23   59   145   15   29   4   1   2   1.38   12    5   44    2   1  .200  .283  .230  .513 
         TOTALS           217   642   68  151  28   6  16   2.49   75   36  170    9   8  .235  .372  .282  .654 
         LG AVERAGE             674   81  175  27   5  15   2.24   75   65   98   10   6  .259  .381  .326  .707 
         POS AVERAGE            681   91  182  30   6  16   2.32   76   66  109   15   8  .268  .399  .334  .733


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