The pitching entered tonight fifth in the majors in ERA. Pick on something else.Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
The pitching entered tonight fifth in the majors in ERA. Pick on something else.
Reds will drop at least two spots after tonight, down to 7th in the NL. Slightly above NL-average. Owings goes tomorrow. Count on them falling another spot. See how it works?
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
You obviously didn't read my post correctly. The Reds are fifth in the MAJORS, NOT THE NL. Well above NL-average. See how it works?
5th in the majors is the same thing as 5th in the NL; all the teams in front of them are NL teams. No surprise.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Fifth in the majors is fifth in the majors.
And it's also fifth in the NL.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Back to the OF: The Reds might have had Juan Rivera for about $3M (IIRC). He's currently .305/.346./444./789. He made a terrific catch last night to take away an HR and just missed a second.
Any thoughts or opinions about the Reds missing out on Juan?
Rem
They missed out on him. What else is there to say? IIRC, he had no designs on ever leaving LA, so who cares?
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Well, I'd assume you don't care so I guess the question is, why did you bother to reply?
While I appreciate your contribution I'm looking for input from multiple people.
Rivera every day or did the Reds do better with a platoon of Nix/Gomes? Olney says the Reds are looking for OF help but ......(famous shrug).
Rem
Because it's like asking: "What do you think about the Reds missing out on Catfish Hunter?"
Rivera's not going anywhere and the Reds never had a chance anyway.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
I don't particularly agree with that. There was a lot of talk here in the OC that he was unhappy with the playing time he was getting with Angels stocked OF. Many people speculated that he would leave for some place that he could play full-time. Also, players have been known to change their loyality for a little extra money. Whitness our own esteemed Coco Cordero.
Besides, I'm really asking would the Reds be happy with Rivera in LF full time vs. Gomes/Nix? If you'd like to reply to that question then I'd seriously like to hear your opinion.
Rem
Fifth in the majors is a bit misleading because the AL is a higher run environment but ya, the Reds rotation is a strength for them.
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I think the Reds would love his defense. That said, while Rivera has annihilated lefties, he has been emasculated against righties so there would probably be gnashing of teeth with him (though he's better against righties than his numbers reflect this season).
I think he would've been an upgrade.
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Roughly adjusting all teams ERA's to equalize the extra offense that is in the AL, the Reds came into tonight 9th in the majors in ERA. Not sure where they will be after tonight, but the lowest they can be is 10th, I believe. They will be somewhere in the top 3rd.
As for Rivera, he signed a 3 year 13.75M contract. Rumors were that the Reds were close, but he chose the Angels because they were his first choice.
To get him to come here, who knows what it would cost? Maybe there was no hope, but judging from what he took, it would have taken at least, either a 3 year $17M contract or a 4 year $22M contract.
He definitely would have been an upgrade, but do you really want to overpay for a Juan Rivera?
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The Reds need to pry Mark Reynolds away from Arizona. It might be a little tougher with Tracy hurt, but they have Whitesell too. I'd send them Drew Stubbs and some kind of useful arm for him.
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