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    Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    In the game last night either Welsh or Brantley talked about Owings tiring after ~75 pitches. They had stats to back it up (they were ugly) and showed what his arm angle/motion was doing in the 4th & 5th innings that it wasn't doing in the first 3 innings.

    My question for those who know more than me: is this due to his shoulder injury and he needs time to rebuild arm strength or is this a sign that he needs to be in the bullpen?
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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    Maybe he gets tired from hitting so many extra base hits?
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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Will M View Post
    In the game last night either Welsh or Brantley talked about Owings tiring after ~75 pitches. They had stats to back it up (they were ugly) and showed what his arm angle/motion was doing in the 4th & 5th innings that it wasn't doing in the first 3 innings.

    My question for those who know more than me: is this due to his shoulder injury and he needs time to rebuild arm strength or is this a sign that he needs to be in the bullpen?
    Heat? Humidity? Max Effort? I wouldn't underestimate how the humidity can effect you when you aren't ready for it and you are struggling.

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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Heat? Humidity? Max Effort? I wouldn't underestimate how the humidity can effect you when you aren't ready for it and you are struggling.
    it wasn't just the game tuesday. all season his ERA/WHIP rises dramatically after ~75 pitches.
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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    Is the difference more pronounced than other pitchers? What's typical?
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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    or maybe the hitters have seen all he has the first two times through the lineup. Owings has no out pitch and once the hitters have adjusted he is in serious trouble unless his command is spot on.
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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    or maybe the hitters have seen all he has the first two times through the lineup. Owings has no out pitch and once the hitters have adjusted he is in serious trouble unless his command is spot on.
    That's what I'm thinking. Maybe he's just got an old-fashioned case of #5pitcheritis.
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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    hasn't he been hurt on and off the last couple of years cutting down his innings.

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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    I would like him a lot as a long man. In a perfect world Bailey or Maloney put it together, bumping Owings to the pen.
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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redmachine2003 View Post
    hasn't he been hurt on and off the last couple of years cutting down his innings.
    That was my thought, too. He's being stretched this season more than ever.

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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    Had a long break to start the year w/o pitching as well....didn't he?
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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    he went from starter to reliever in the extra innings game back to starter on short rest.. with the way the rest are pitching.. he doesnt hurt.. plus his bat in a game or pinch hitting is a huge plus too

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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I would like him a lot as a long man. In a perfect world Bailey or Maloney put it together, bumping Owings to the pen.
    I'm not sure how much more Maloney could get it together. He deserved a chance a long time ago.
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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    Putting Owings in the pen wastes his bat. In other words, no thanks.

    As a starter, he gets the regular ABs of his starts and he is available as a PH on his off-days. As a reliever, he'll get one AB, at most, on the days that he pitches and rarely bat at all on the days that he doesn't (as he won't be in the dugout and won't be used as a PH if he still might be a RP).

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    Re: Owings tired after 75 pitches?

    Quote Originally Posted by backbencher View Post
    Putting Owings in the pen wastes his bat. In other words, no thanks.
    I disagree with this assessment, and I've heard it numerous times. Why is it wasted if he's in the pen? It just means he needs to be used more creatively. Instead of plugging in the relief pitcher in a spot to AVOID his bat, you do it the other way around. And whether he's pitched 2 or 3 days in a row doesn't stop you from still using him as a PH'er. As a long reliever, he's even MORE versatile than most. Because you're not forced to pull him to bring in a pinch hitter. It just takes a different train of thought from how we've grown accustomed to seeing relievers used.
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