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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

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    ...unless they're Kansas (Arthur), Duke (Maggette), UCLA (Walton, et al) or one of the other NCAA Golden Dynasties? The NCAA hammered Memphis for a violation they have ignored or slapped programs on the wrist for in the past.
    But they really didn't "hammer" Memphis.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Kansas: No action taken
    Duke: "Still investigating"
    UCLA: No action taken

    Memphis: Loss of 38 games, cash, and forfeiture of Final Four banner.

    I'd call that hammered.
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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Kansas: No action taken Duke: "Still investigating" UCLA: No action taken Memphis: Loss of 38 games, cash, and forfeiture of Final Four banner. I'd call that hammered.
    You want them to investigate UCLA 35 years after the fact? Upon further review of the Arthur situation, the Dallas schools ruled him "ineligible" for athletic competition but decided not to take his diploma away. If they had... That may have caused the NCAA to take more action. The Duke situation, I agree with you on. Some things have been proven there.
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    If Rose was ruled ineligible after the fact (and he was-- Memphis wasn't told his scores were being questioned until after the school year was over in late May) and they should be punished for wrong-doing, why not UCLA?

    Rose allegedly committed academic fraud (or someone did it for him). So did Arthur. Again, I don't see the difference there. Academic fraud is academic fraud and the NCAA Handbook explains it as a violation. (Paraphrasing here-- any fraudulent alteration in a prospective student-athlete's transcript will result in that student-athlete losing eligibility at all NCAA charter schools)

    You're not supposed to be able to pick and choose which rules you're going to enforce against which programs. That's patently unfair.

    I'm just asking the NCAA to either be 1) fair, or, 2) use common sense.
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    I'm just asking the NCAA to either be 1) fair, or, 2) use common sense.
    Good luck with that one.
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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Great article about Patrick Patterson! It's worth your time to read.

    LEXINGTON, Ky. – The lights inside Rupp Arena had been off for 20 minutes, but Patrick Patterson wasn’t ready to leave.


    Not as long as there were still pictures to take, he said. Not as long as there were autographs to sign and fans to meet – especially the 4-year-old who had waited more than an hour after the game to talk to her favorite Kentucky basketball player.

    As Patterson reached over the rail to sign the girl’s program, a security guard grabbed him by the arm and directed him toward the tunnel. Rupp Arena was officially closed, the man announced. It was time for everyone to leave.

    Two years later, Patterson still remembers how he felt as the girl dropped her pen, wrapped her arms around her father’s leg and began to sob.

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    Is Patterson the most loved player in UK history? In my neck of the woods, he's right up there. Great kid with a heart of gold and great numbers. I'd say he's top five, all time, anyway, with King Rex, Macy, Mashburn, and either Bowie or Hayes.

    Though, thinking back, no one touches the hysteria that was Rex Chapman. I went to a HS State Finals. Two minutes left in regulation, I had to pee. Went and there was Rex right next to me. Walked out the door and there had to be 100 really, really cute high school girls. (I was in high school at the time.)

    It had to have been good to be the king.
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    I would think you would have to win an NCAA tournament game to make the most beloved list at UK, though he should take care of that this year. I would say Macy, Rex, Givens, Mash and the 4 seniors from the 92 team would be at the top of most lists.
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    I would think you would have to win an NCAA tournament game to make the most beloved list at UK, though he should take care of that this year. I would say Macy, Rex, Givens, Mash and the 4 seniors from the 92 team would be at the top of most lists.
    Yup. Talk to me in April and I'll be able to tell you with more accuracy where PPatt ranks. (Not to take anything away from Pat, he's a special kid/player)
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    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    A couple of points on Wall after watching BBM last night.
    The kid is super super fast as advertised. Also...any possibilty a kid this "good" would be a stuck up-rather be in pro's- type kid was all put aside when I seen him introduced.
    He actually appeared to be having the most fun during the intro's, smiling and cutting up with crowd and almost always had a smile on face during the scrimmage.
    So it appears Wall has a great attitude to go along with exceptional ability.

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    Wall is a freak. The way he can get to the rim whenever he wants is amazing. He's faster than Rondo.
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    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Just something to get you woke up this morning.

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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Kyrie Irving is set to announce today on ESPNU, and all indications are that it will be for the Dukies. Let Dick Vitale and Billy Packer rejoice.

    Losing Kyrie really doesn't bother me. You win some (Wall) and you lose some (Irving). I have to think we are in pretty good with both Josh Selby and Brandon Knight.

    Also, Tobias Harris is going to make his decision on November 18th(?). With Youcabu picking Villanova last night, UK will likely be 0-2 on Madness visitors. Hopefully Harris and Gilchrist can break the streak.
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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    I'm not worried about losing those two recruits myself, I don't mean to take away from Youcabu and Irving, but the real prizes in the class are Gilchrist and Harris, and UK stands better with them than they did the others. If they manage not land either of those, I will be sorely disappointed. I think there are some concerns that've come up with character stuff on Selby, and it may not be a bad thing if he committed somewhere else, though UK is his preferred school.

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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Looks like a couple of UK recruits are - surprise, surprise - facing eligibility issues.

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