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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Wall will be eligible.

    The MOST he will miss is 3 games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    Wall will be eligible.

    The MOST he will miss is 3 games.
    I hate UK and would love it if Wall was declared ineligible but I have to agree with you on this point. There is no way he is declared ineligible for the season and really he shouldn't be. The NCAA has established a precedent here: pay back the money and sit out a small number (3 or less) of games. UK will follow that precedent and the NCAA won't argue with it.

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    I read an interesting report on a Louisville scrimmage recently.

    Wonder how long Pitino will stick with Sosa at the 1? Sounds like Siva is better at everything.

    Louisville is going to really struggle on the wings this season. Their big man depth leaves a bit to be desired as well.
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    Ok, who had Payne to Michigan State?

    Makes sense with the pipeline. The Buckeye State has been very good to Mr. Izzo. Just thought WVU would come out on top with their recruiting pitch at madness, lol.
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    I read an interesting report on a Louisville scrimmage recently.

    Wonder how long Pitino will stick with Sosa at the 1? Sounds like Siva is better at everything.

    Louisville is going to really struggle on the wings this season. Their big man depth leaves a bit to be desired as well.
    Siva is a lot more talented than Sosa but its difficult to win with a freshman point guard. In last nights exhibition, he had seven assists and looked great running the floor but he also had seven turnovers. For UofL to be an elite team this year their co-captain backcourt of Smith and Sosa has to play well. They won't make any All-American teams but if they are solid, the rotation with Knowles and Siva will carry them through a lot of games.

    I totally agree with you on the wings. The loss of Williams and Clark is huge and Delk and Swopshire aren't anywhere near their level. However, the strength of this team is at the five. Samuels and Jennings were very good last year and look even better this year.

    This will be an interesting year. Theoretically, the inside out punch and depth should take this team far but they have to transition from a forward-led team to a guard-led team. Also, in addition to everything else he brought, Terrence Williams was the heart and soul of that team. Now you have Reginald Delk trying to fill his position and Smith and Sosa trying to fill the leadership void.

    One thing you can count on with this team (and with every Pitino team really) is they will likely look rough early before turning it on for conference play.

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    And I'll add, just like UK they looked like world-beaters in the red-white scrimmage. The Georgetown game was a better gauge of their situation as they clearly showed their inexperience and lack of practice time. Mike Marra went from three point specialist (7 threes in the scrimmage) to the bench (too many turnovers and stupid plays) in less than a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Ok, who had Payne to Michigan State?
    I think a lot of us Flyer fans had him to Michigan St. UD was on his list early on in the process, but he eventually decided he wanted to leave the area. It's well known that he is friends with several of the Flyers and played a lot of pickup games with them. It makes sense with the Gregory-Izzo connection. He's familiar with Gregory's system, likes it, and knows he'll get the same thing at Michigan St.

    Personally, if it wasn't UD, I'm glad he decided on Michigan St.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    I think a lot of us Flyer fans had him to Michigan St. UD was on his list early on in the process, but he eventually decided he wanted to leave the area. It's well known that he is friends with several of the Flyers and played a lot of pickup games with them. It makes sense with the Gregory-Izzo connection. He's familiar with Gregory's system, likes it, and knows he'll get the same thing at Michigan St.

    Personally, if it wasn't UD, I'm glad he decided on Michigan St.
    Izzo has successfully built a pipeline into Ohio. If I were an Ohio State fan or Thad Matta, I would take notice. Raymar Morgan and now Adriean Payne to a conference rival.

    At least I don't have to hear WVU fans bragging about stealing a recruit away from Coach Cal.
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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    After watching the Blue-White scrimmage, I only have one real concern at this time. Who the heck in going to hit the outside shot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blimpie View Post
    After watching the Blue-White scrimmage, I only have one real concern at this time. Who the heck in going to hit the outside shot?
    Dodson hit a few from outside. He looked fine from out there. Hood may help out there too. Also Patterson hit three 3's,IIRC. Altogether, they hit something like 35% from behind the arc in this scrimmage. If they hit something like that all season they will be just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Izzo has successfully built a pipeline into Ohio. If I were an Ohio State fan or Thad Matta, I would take notice. Raymar Morgan and now Adriean Payne to a conference rival. At least I don't have to hear WVU fans bragging about stealing a recruit away from Coach Cal.
    Weren't 4 of the guys on Mich. St's Final 4 team last year from Ohio? I know Morgan and Travis Walton are Ohio kids. Izzo has done well recruiting in Ohio as far back as Andre Hutson (also a Dayton kid) about ten years ago.
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    Weren't 4 of the guys on Mich. St's Final 4 team last year from Ohio? I know Morgan and Travis Walton are Ohio kids. Izzo has done well recruiting in Ohio as far back as Andre Hutson (also a Dayton kid) about ten years ago.
    Delvon Roe is from Cleveland. Izzo does very well in Ohio. Garrick Sherman from Kenton is a freshmen to go with Payne coming next year.

    Ohio is a very fertile recruiting ground.
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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Blimpie View Post
    After watching the Blue-White scrimmage, I only have one real concern at this time. Who the heck in going to hit the outside shot?
    I'm guessing this Kentucky team is going to depend an awful lot on Dodson, Hood, and (maybe) Miller. Bledsoe's shot doesn't look horrid and Wall has good form, but neither is going to hit for over 30%.

    Expect lots of zone from teams playing Kentucky this year. And losses in some of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    I'm guessing this Kentucky team is going to depend an awful lot on Dodson, Hood, and (maybe) Miller. Bledsoe's shot doesn't look horrid and Wall has good form, but neither is going to hit for over 30%.

    Expect lots of zone from teams playing Kentucky this year. And losses in some of those.
    IF Kentucky can hit around 35% from behind the arc, I believe they will win a lot of games.

    I'll add two more names to your list. Mark Krebs and Josh Harrellson. If Harrellson is allowed to step out and hit some threes, it is going to make Kentucky that much more deadly. Krebs is another shooter who could get minutes just because Kentucky is low in that department.
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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Dodson and Krebs are without question the two best perimeter shooters, and then you would probably put Miller, but beyond that, UK's next best outside shooters, believe it or not, are all their big men. Harrellson's been mentioned, but the others have better outside games than do Wall, Bledsoe, Liggins and Harris. Hood is improving, but hasn't had much of an outside shot until more recently. Cousins has a very versatile game and can step out and 3s pretty consistently, in the mold of an Antoine Walker (without the debt, I hope). Stevenson is surprisingly pretty decent from beyond the arc, which he might as well be because he's definitely not an offensive threat down low. Patterson and Orton are probably the least effective of UK's five big men from outside, but they are better than the average big man beyond the arc. It's a team with unusually strong range from the big men, but rather thin range from the spots you'd normally expect it from.
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