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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    Anyway, it annoys me that UK fans act like no violations will happen because Sandy Bell is there. She is no silver bullet.
    Don't you know? She is the only compliance director with the skills and desire to keep her program out of trouble. As has been pointed out, the compliance director can do little to stop these types of things from happening, they can only monitor and then self-report to limit the damage. If John Wall wants to talk to an agent I'm sure he can find a way.

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    UK fan here. I don't find Sandy Bell all that special. Our school has gotten in trouble on her watch [football] so I don't see her as a sacred cow by any means.

    Give me the compliance director at a school that doesn't have questions any day. Yeah that rules out UK, UL, IU, UC and most major programs I guess.

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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Quote Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
    Knight says stupid things but why would he be jealous of Calipari, a coach who has never won a championship and just happens to be the "flavor of the month"? Comments like this are why UK fans get a bad rap. Someone criticizes their coach or program so it must be jealousy.
    Kentucky is one of the hottest teams right now and has the biggest star in college basketball on their team. They are getting crazy exposure. Just kinda funny that grumpy ole Bob takes a jab at Calipari at this point.... by making an incorrect statement might I add.

    That wasn't criticism, it was an insult. At least say something truthful... Calipari teams can't shoot FTs, etc.

    Anyways, I'm not sure why I'm trying to explain something to a little brother fan. One who jocks the UK thread at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSelig View Post
    Anyways, I'm not sure why I'm trying to explain something to a little brother fan. One who jocks the UK thread at that.
    Nice.

    If you don't want to hear from other fans, post on a UK board. I bet you'd fit in real well at Cats Pause.
    Last edited by joshnky; 12-19-2009 at 06:36 PM.

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    Win #1999.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
    Nice.

    If you don't want to hear from other fans, post on a UK board. I bet you'd fit in real well at Cats Pause.
    I'll post here, thank you.

    But whats the point of baiting here on the UK thread? Does it make you feel good inside?

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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Mock Draft Update on UK players:

    #1 - John Wall.... a no brainer pick at this point... however, several of the teams who will have a chance at landing this pick have good PGs (Nets - Harris, TWolves - Rubio/Flynn/Sessions, Jazz - Deron, Wizards - Arenas). Jazz are the only team that I could see trading rights to Wall away.

    #8 - Patrick Patterson... a great player, but I'm a little surprised at him being mocked this high. I think he might be a tweener forward in the NBA. I had him pegged at mid-late 1st rd pick... 16-25.

    #28 - DeMarcus Cousins... if he goes this late, I think he stays another year. His stock will improve as the season goes along IMO. 12th-16th is my guess.

    per draftexpress.com... nbadraft.net has Patterson @ 10, Cousins @ 18

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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSelig View Post
    Mock Draft Update on UK players:

    #1 - John Wall.... a no brainer pick at this point... however, several of the teams who will have a chance at landing this pick have good PGs (Nets - Harris, TWolves - Rubio/Flynn/Sessions, Jazz - Deron, Wizards - Arenas). Jazz are the only team that I could see trading rights to Wall away.

    #8 - Patrick Patterson... a great player, but I'm a little surprised at him being mocked this high. I think he might be a tweener forward in the NBA. I had him pegged at mid-late 1st rd pick... 16-25.

    #28 - DeMarcus Cousins... if he goes this late, I think he stays another year. His stock will improve as the season goes along IMO. 12th-16th is my guess.

    per draftexpress.com... nbadraft.net has Patterson @ 10, Cousins @ 18
    Sorry, but Wall > Devin Harris and Clint Sessions.

    If one of those teams mentioned selects Wall with the first overall pick, I think it would be possible for Wall to coexist with another PG. He is currently doing that at Kentucky and teams are looking at the 2 guard now to allow for two floor generals. Not the best example, but the Memphis Grizzlies have two PG's in OJ Mayo and Mike Conley.

    A dream scenario would be to see the New Jersey Nets draft John Wall and then turn around and sign LeBron James. Could you imagine?
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    Ramon Sessions? But yeah, I know Wall > those players, which is why I added that I think the Jazz are the only team to pass up on Wall or trade the rights away.

    But the TWolves have Johnny Flynn who is already a good player... 14-4 in his rookie season so far. Then they have Ramon Sessions, who has a decent upside.. although his assists are way down this year. PLUS you have star prospect Ricky Rubio, most likely coming over after next season. Something would have to be traded if they land the #1 pick IMO. Then again, they could always play Wall and Flynn together and wait until Rubio is ready for the NBA then trade his rights (or Flynn).

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    First to 2,000.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    A great night last night for all UK fans! Kudos to ESPNU for showing all of the post game celebration too! Now the race is on for 3000. I only hope I will be alive to see that.
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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia View Post
    Coach Knight had many faults as a man but there was NEVER a sniff of him breaking a rule and getting his school in any kind of trouble with the NCAA. Coach Knight had a point about Calipari, two schools on probation and two final four appearences voided, that is pretty impressive.
    Neither school,UMass or Memphis ever served a day of probation.

    Below is a list of Knights transgressions and this doesn't mention all of them.
    Integrity is all encompassing IMO. It's an everyday thing. You treat people with respect all the time even if you may not like them or like the things they do. Just because you ran a "clean" program and made sure your players went to class and graduated makes you have 100% integrity? IMO, Bobby Knight has less integrity than any college basketball coach not named Dave Bliss in the history of the game. He has become a caricature of himself over the last 20 years and just needs to go away.

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    Congrats to UK for getting 2000 wins. That's an impressive accomplishment.

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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    Neither school,UMass or Memphis ever served a day of probation.

    Below is a list of Knights transgressions and this doesn't mention all of them.
    Integrity is all encompassing IMO. It's an everyday thing. You treat people with respect all the time even if you may not like them or like the things they do. Just because you ran a "clean" program and made sure your players went to class and graduated makes you have 100% integrity? IMO, Bobby Knight has less integrity than any college basketball coach not named Dave Bliss in the history of the game. He has become a caricature of himself over the last 20 years and just needs to go away.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...timeline_x.htm
    That is not even close to being a full list of Coach Knights transgressions. The guy is a total jerk, I agree but Calipari has had two final four's voided. It is just a matter of time before Kentucky is under some form of discipline from the NCAA.
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    Again, what would you have wanted Calipari to do to prevent Marcus Camby from taking on an agent unbeknown to anybody, slumber with him for 24 hours a day? What was Calipari supposed to do when the NCAA Clearinghouse CLEARED Derrick Rose? Time travel to later on to see the Clearinghouse messed up, and decide not to offer Rose a scholarship?

    And yes, I defended him the same before he ever got the UK job, this came up (though not NEARLY like it does now) while he was at Memphis, while everyone twiddled their thumbs at Roy Williams leaving Kansas as he did in a similar timeframe.


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