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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Good post, corkedbat. Some just cannot get past their personal bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSelig View Post
    Good post, corkedbat. Some just cannot get past their personal bias.

    I don't usually take shots at other programs or their fans. Just don't like it when people start stating things as fact when they have no real clue as to what they're talking abount. Like when they start talking about Cal turning their heads to major violations.

    The only two major violations involving Cal were when Camby has secret contact with an agent and Cal self-reported when he found out about it (doesn't sound like turning his head. Then there is the Rose incident at Memphis. Rose was given full clearance by the NCAA Clearinghouse - Memphis new nothing of an alleged test irregularity. Even some of the most "saintly" schools would have played him.

    UK did not rashly hire a cheater. UK's compliance officer, Sandy Bell is one of the strictest and highly respected in the business, vetted Cal fully on behalf of Mitch Barnhardt and Dr. Todd.

    She just left a stint on the NCAA's compliance committe and used her contacts to check on Cal's record. She was fully apprised of the Memphis accusations a full 3 months before they becamse public and was told that the committe had never had a probelm with Cal, nor was he a part of the Rose investigation.

    Most people that throw the cheating stuff out there are those scared of the Cal/UK partnership and are grasping at straws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Most people that throw the cheating stuff out there are those scared of the Cal/UK partnership and are grasping at straws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Most people that throw the cheating stuff out there are those scared of the Cal/UK partnership and are grasping at straws.
    Disagree with this part. People were throwing the cheating stuff at him long before the UK partnership. He's had the "rep", whether it's deserved or not, for quite some time. It's just more visible to you guys now that he's at UK.

    That said, the debate is getting tiring. Just let it play out and see what happens. Personally, I'm more worried about the long, uphill battle Crean has in front of him than anything Cal and the Cats do.

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    Tremendous post, corkedbat. Thanks for having the patience to get all the correct info out there where most of us have run out of patience on this subject

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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    Great post corkedbat! Very well thought out and researched. It's best for us UK fans to just let things play out and let others do the talking.
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    Re: 2009 Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball - 4th edition

    John Wall sets a record, 16 assists.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=293630096

    Cuz with 18/12 and 2 blocks in 19 minutes.

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    Alright, let's read some Louisville/UK predictions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSelig View Post
    John Wall sets a record, 16 assists.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=293630096

    Cuz with 18/12 and 2 blocks in 19 minutes.
    Seriously, John Wall is a bad dude. I wish the Pacers would have really tanked this season to have a chance to draft him.

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    John wipes Travis Ford's name from the UK record books. Ford had 15 versus EKU in 93.

    What an impressive record to hold. The all-time single game assist leader at Kentucky, set as a freshman. He had ONE turnover.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    The Optimist Says: Sosa plays well against Kentucky and in big games. Perhaps no game on Louisville's schedule is bigger. Silva is almost as quick as Wall and may cause him to turn the ball over, as he has a penchant to do. (Especially against good teams like UNC and UConn.) Bledsoe is ailing and that may be a difference maker. Cousins will foul, if given half a chance. That may eat into Kentucky's bench depth.

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    The Optimist Says: Why in God's name would you want to speed up a game against the fastest team in college basketball? And the fastest player too? Two point guards on the floor if Bledsoe is healthy means pressure D is difficult at best. Add in Cousins and Patterson and Kentucky may have the three most talented players on the court.

    Talent says Kentucky should dominate, but if they're allowed to their brand of ball, Pitino's squads always make it interesting. If hand checking is called, OTOH, the Cardinals are dead in the water.
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    All those crowing about John Wall tonight should realize Hartford may be the worst team any SEC team plays all year. No player above small forward height. No player in his league athletically. (Or close. At all.)

    Wall should have dominated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    All those crowing about John Wall tonight should realize Hartford may be the worst team any SEC team plays all year. No player above small forward height. No player in his league athletically. (Or close. At all.)

    Wall should have dominated.
    He could've gone out and tried to score 50. Instead he went out and broke the all-time assist record. A nice feather in your cap no matter who the opponent is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    I'm just saying-- it's Hartford.

    Now, if he goes out and dishes 15 on Louisville, that's a different horse altogether.

    Off-topic: last player to average 10+ assists per game in NCAA play? IIRC, Reid Gettys did it for Houston in the middle of Guy Lewis's Phi Slamma Jamma teams.

    Could Wall average 10 per?

    That would be impressive in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    I'm just saying-- it's Hartford.

    Now, if he goes out and dishes 15 on Louisville, that's a different horse altogether.

    Off-topic: last player to average 10+ assists per game in NCAA play? IIRC, Reid Gettys did it for Houston in the middle of Guy Lewis's Phi Slamma Jamma teams.

    Could Wall average 10 per?

    That would be impressive in my book.
    Haha, that would be something wouldn't it? I'll be very interested to monitor his stats during SEC play.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"



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